Yesterday's Tractor Co.
Shop Now View Cart
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile    Log inLog in 

TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft


 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
drturbo
New User


Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 5


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello,

I am hoping someone can shed some light onto why I have no oil supply to the rocker shaft, its a 1949 TED20. Oil pressure was previously nest to zero, changed oil & filter, cleaned pickup strainer which was filthy, have now got good pressure on the starter, but no oil up to the top.
I"ve fed a wire down the gallery, through the head, and got as far as the camshaft, and blew air into the oil gallery along side the camshaft, and down the hole from above.
Where does this feed come from and any thoughts as to why no oil??
Haven"t started it yet, only turned on starter with no plugs in..
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Tony in Mass.
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 7000


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is a thread on this subject in the Massey forum today.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Jason S.
Tractor Expert


Joined: 07 Dec 2011
Posts: 2820


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would drop the pan and check the pickup on the oil pump. Make sure it isn"t loose and sucking air instead of oil. Check the relief valve on the pump. See if it is stuck. I"m not real familiar with the standard engines but there are several other engines out there that will not pump oil unless the oil pump has been primed. Might be worth trying unless the pump is worn out. Have you blown air thru the passages in the filter housing?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Dick New York
Guest






Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For what its worth . Is the shaft that turns the oil pump broke or sheared / rounded . Some motors are set so the dist. won't turn if this happens . Others will run , and self destruct .
Good luck
 
Back to top
drturbo
New User


Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 5


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cheers for all the reply,s, its appreciated..

Oil pump seems fine, good pressure at the gallery along side the camshaft, and runs and sounds sweet, so I'm guessing most of it is fine, just the rocker shaft.
Just couldn't figure out where the rocker supply comes from...

Mark, Suffolk, UK
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Jason S.
Tractor Expert


Joined: 07 Dec 2011
Posts: 2820


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you had the rocker assembly loose? Not sure on the standards but a lot of engines that have shaft mount rockers the oil supply hole is only on one side of the shaft. If it was to get turned to where the hole is on top you wouldn"t get any oil. Also FE Ford engines used shaft mount rockers but the bolt where the oil supply is, was a special bolt. It looked like all the others in the assembly but it was turned down all the way to the bolt head to allow the oil to flow around it into the rocker shaft. I have seen several engines destroyed by people either putting the bolt in the wrong location or using a regular bolt in its place. That may be something to look at also.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
drturbo
New User


Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 5


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: TED20 Oil supply to rocker shaft Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks Jason,

Rocker shaft is fitted correctly, it gets its oil through a hole in the rear pedestal. There is a plug on the rear of the head that gives you access to the oil feed gallery up there, and there is no oil there either, just before the rocker shaft.
It looks as if it gets a feed from the rear camshaft bearing, and if the plug there is removed, there is plenty of oil.

Strange..
 
Back to top
View user's profile
:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Harry Ferguson All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). Expedited shipping available, just call! Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors. Compare our super low shipping rates! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor. We are a company you can trust and have generous return policies. Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ About Us ]

YT Home  |  Forums

Modern View Forum powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters