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Inno
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The governor on my TO35 is very slow to engage when you lug it down. When throttling up it is quick to react and not go over RPM so it is doing something.
I backed the bumper screw off a little bit and found that it is probably backed out as much as it can be 'cause it fell out. What wears out that I might have to replace, or did someone just back it off too far in the past?
I have adjusted everything else as per John (UK)'s specs as best I could. Maybe have to go over things one more time just to make sure.
 


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Try lengthening the carb rod clevise 1 or 2 turns and see if that helps. If rod is too long governor will be slow to recover, if too short it will surge more, providing all parts are in good working order. Most times the cover surge screw is not needed.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When I put it in 3rd high and hold the brakes on then slowly let out the clutch, I don't see the governor arm move for a good 1-2 seconds or so. On my 202, it's pretty much the instant the rpms drop.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dieseltech is on the money... easy too...proving you still have asbestos gloves around... what is it? 3/8" from the exhaust manifold? Irritating job at best too.
After I did all that the best I could to wind er up... I still feel like retiming.. time and time again... that cures the sputter... the sweet spot these need with all the power the loader calls for... is a very long process eh?
I suppose pro's in the factory or dealership would do what we suffer with in minutes... still didn't put in the new tune up tho... too many non tractor jobs to do... killing bugs, keeping plants alive... lawnmowers... !!!!!... I've got my camper van going again!!! finally! So pack up the babies and hide the ol ladies cause here we go!! or however that Gordon Lightfoot song went...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you checked the bearing in the timing cover where the governor comes out the side? Also it does mention in the Ferguson manual that sometimes the bumper spring sticks out too far and must be bent back towards the timing cover, otherwise it holds back against the governor too much and slows it down.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Asbestos gloves, that would be a good idea. Like when adjusting the carb on the 202 which now has vertical exhaust. You can tell when it's too lean 'cause the skin starts peeling from your hand. Glad I heal quickly.
I will have to try lengthening the throttle shaft clevis a bit and see what happens. It's not as bad on this tractor, not having a working governor. It's way worse with the loader and backhoe on the 202, luckily that one works as it should.
I've never had the timing cover off, maybe it just needs some cleanup in there. I've seen plenty of pictures on here of rebuilds that others have done. I'll try some adjustments and see what happens.
Oh, and a side note, so far.......only one leak......and it's from the side cover for the hydraulics, the one with the dipstick. I'm amazed to say the least! I could potentially park this one in the shop for the winter and not have to worry about it...........ok, that's a lie.........I think I have a rotten rim and some calcium seeping out. Never dealt calcium before, should be interesting. That's another post and a few more months down the road.
Tony, the sputtering you speak of, is that when the gov. kicks in? Or any time the butterfly on the carb is very quickly snapped open? Every time I've had that it's turned out to be a fuel issue. Whether it's crap in a newly rebuilt carb or crud in the sediment bowl etc. that's always the case. Currently the 202 and the 35 jump to it when you goose the throttle. I know a lot of Gordon Lightfoot songs but that one eludes me.......unless you got the lyrics way wrong!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Slooooowww Governor TO35 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I kept chasing carb, filter and tank gremlins...that just weren't there...so if it isn't gas... it's ignition? is that how the textbook goes?? I have ...so many... fergies, that I can rotate/swap carbs. Always an extra too. Rebuild one, put it on an otherwise finely tuned engine, then just tweek the carb... leave it there! Then after playing with the rest of the first start up process.... the carb that just came off is adjusted perfect from its last engine right? That one's ready for the next job. So as long as the gas flows, just slight needle work to get it running the new engine. Confused? Me too. I have more tricks up my sleeve than Doctor Evil...
Ok... so you can sleep... Neil Diamond...sang something like that...but I.... modernized it... no one allows me in a kareoke bar...
 
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