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Wile E
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:58 am    Post subject: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The front door to my house is rather cheesy.
One good kick with a workboot and my door will just fall in.
Who makes, and where can I get a steel entry door that has a steel frame? I looked at home depot, page after page is the standard foam core with thin steel exterior with a wood brick moulding.
Can somebody help me out here?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like you want commercial or industrial door frame and door. They are , usually in 3-0 (36 inch) or larger , and are available thru industrial or specialty door and window stores. Look up Steel entry door, to find a dealer.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well first off forget getting much of anything of "Quality" at big box store. They sell to people that are price only crowd so quality is not much of a consideration.

Go to a regular lumber yard. They will be able to get you a commercial entry door. That is what you are looking for.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

To get a steel frame, you will have to get a commercial steel entry system. The rough opening sizes are different than for residential systems so probably not a good solution. Menards sells them on a special order and they are expensive. You can put a piece of flat iron on the outside of the frame with the proper holes drilled in it and it will make your door more secure. If someone wants in, they will get in anyway.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes,
But, making it more difficult to get in is important.
Crooks want easy quick access.
I have a home alarm system. I also have a doorwall that is wedged shut with a 2x2 piece of wood. I have deadbolts, but the front door and the wood frame in my opinion will not stand up to an attack. Helping to prevent a break-in is a start. Having a home safe also helps.
Thanks for the info.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Search "commercial hollow-metal door frames". If you go this route, a three piece knockdown frame would be your best bet for replacing your existing door. However, this style frame would require drilling and dimpling for additional fasteners for your security requirements.
Keep in mind these frames are typically meant to be installed with the wall sliding into the throat of the jamb. Therefore your wall thickness will dictate the frame you use. You can case the opening, then slide a welded frame into that opening and attach the frame to your casing. This requires "slugging" the frame with morter or concrete first. One advantage to going with a commercial door is the use of commercial hardware, which is far superior to residential in quality and security. I hope this info helps.
Hope this info helps.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You are free to do as you wish but here is a idea. It sounds like security is the main issue for replacing the door. Why don't you just buy a OUT SWING door, I have installed dozens of them (lets just say in areas where there are a lot of euthenic back ground people that get there doors kicked in) They are just like regular doors with frames, brick moldings, thresholds, ect & look like they should be on a house rather than on a shop. But they swing OUT instead of IN. Gerald
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Stanley makes them or at least used to. That's what we put on our old mobile home to replace the original crappy door.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

EUTHENIC -- the word you have entered is not in the dictionary.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

fire rated doors are steel with a steel frame---with a dead bolt added it is quite secure
got mine at home depot
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry Sportster I didn't proof read my comment nor did I use spell check. My comment was only intended to help someone resolve there problem. Gerald
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dr sportster wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:36:00 09/29/13) EUTHENIC -- the word you have entered is not in the dictionary.


Ummmm..... yes.... it is. Do you need help finding it?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats what i said when I looked it up because I never heard of that word.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: steel entry doors with steel casement? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes Just post the definintion.That would be fine.
 
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