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How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate???


 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I know that Dubuque tractors have a number stamped on the right side of the block that can be used to determine the tractor serial number to get a replacement tag, but is there any identifying numbers on for example a 520 or 620 that I could use to help identify if the tractor or use to get mother Deere to get a replacement serial number so I can make sure the tractor is what it shows to be or a fake?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The only serial number that I know of is the tag. The tag is on the right side of the main case. The 1957 620 and 720 tag is mounted vertically. The 1958 620 and 720 tag is lower and mounted horizontally. Hope this helps some.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the info but I am not sure if Deere has numbers casted on the block or frame that could be used to determine if the tractor was an all fuel, gas , or lp.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The numbers will only be found on the tag. All-Fuel tractors will not have a heat shield under the tank. Gas tractors will. LP tractors have a different manifold than other fuels and also have a big bubble on top of the tractor. (couldn't resist that).
What makes you think it may be a fake?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I know for sure it's an all fuel but the serial tag has been
knocked off and reglued back on. 2cyl is giving me info that its
a gas tractor , but it has never been apart before and has
everything as an all fuel and has only had two owners which
never lived where 2cyl says it was from. I wonder of the serial
tag is not for this tractor or if 2cyl just have me bad info.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Two-Cylinder can only give you the information from the numbers you give them. I am not sure of this on a 520 or 620 all-fuel but if the fuel selector is in the dash like the A and B had you should have a selector that would say "off" or which fuel is selected. Gas would not have that. What about the two fuel tanks? Are they there? I think it is a fake tag as tags were put on with brads, not glue.
 


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The tag was obviously torn off. Brads are still on tractor.
Everything is on the tractor for an all fuel. Tanks, valves,
manifolds, etc. I think it's the wrong serial plate or two cylinder
may have Givin me info in the wrong tractor.. Has anyone else
had to call them about there serial research??
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: How to identify Waterloo tractors without serial plate?? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't believe that Two-Cylinder has given you the wrong information. They are giving you what they have for that particular serial number. I will say this though, the info T-C gives you is NOT necessarily the info that is housed at JD Archives in Waterloo. The info is simply not as detailed.
I called and got the info on my 36 A from Deere 22 years ago. They told me the powerlift number and even the serial number on the original mag. When I ordered a research document, many years later, it came back "no special equipment listed". A powerlift and rubber up front/steel on the back IS special equipment. I called, and T-C confirmed that those were special equipment items. They double checked their records and said again "no special equipment listed". I believe they may get their info from records in Moline as opposed to Waterloo, and that those records contain a varying amount of info compared to the Waterloo records. I would say that they have given you the correct info for the tag you have, it just may not be as complete as some records are...........maybe.
 
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