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Kronie
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:49 am    Post subject: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, not exactly new, its a 1964 but new to me! Anyway...I just bought this 1964 Case 440 (gasoline) for $3,000 and while mechanically inclined, I have never owned a tractor but I have driven lots of them. Its in great shape and the owner (basically one owner if you can believe a used car salesman) just had it on his small family farm and traded it in for a New Holland model that is easier to get in and out of as he was almost 80.

Everything seems to be working and it runs like a top. Whoever owned it maintained it well. It has one bad hydraulic cylinder for the bucket that I need to fix somehow.

Besides changing the fluids in the spring is there anything specific to this tractor I should be looking at?




Here is the bad cylinder. It just barely leaks now but I am hoping I can just get the outside casing fixed somehow and for cheap:


 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not sure that it will necessarily be "cheap"
but the best fix for your cylinder would be to
take it to a shop that specializes in hydraulics
and have them fix it for you. They can often make
up what ever you need.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jeremy McNary wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:03:19 02/16/15) I'm not sure that it will necessarily be "cheap"
but the best fix for your cylinder would be to
take it to a shop that specializes in hydraulics
and have them fix it for you. They can often make
up what ever you need.


Plan "B" is to send it to a hydraulics repair shop that my local tractor guy sends stuff to in NH but your right its not cheap and will cost me a few hundred bucks easy.

Plan "A" is to clamp some sheet metal around the cylinder and JB Weld it and see if it holds. That is my $5 repair. I will at least try that one first. I will definitely need to have it fixed professionally at some point....
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Your 430 appears to be newer than a '64. I would say '65 or newer. It has the "Draft-O-Matic" decal on the hood, and the front axle, from what I can tell, appears to have the hydrostatic power steering.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not just sure where your cylinder is leaking. From the pic. I gather that you have an external leak in the cyl barrel. If so, realize you are dealing with 2250# of hyd pressure, and tin and JB weld ain't going to amount to diddly squat.
The loader appears to be a Freeman brand, not sure of model.
Loren
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where do you live in MA.If you are near Hudson , NH. I used to use a guy there that was very reasonable (Small shop) ,in fact down right cheap , his work was excellent. He has his own machine shop and makes a lot of his own parts. If you like i'll check in and see if he is still there.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats a nice find. If the leak is in the rusted area on the cylinder barrel you may need a new cylinder barrel.

JB weld will not hold the pressure.

A good cylinder shop should be able to repair your cylinder by replacing your cylinder barrel
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: New Case 430 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, I was real happy to find this tractor, it seemed like a good deal and there are lots of parts out there. It might be newer than a 64 but I was told it was a 64. I guess I could run the serial number and find out for sure?

It is a draftomatic with power steering and a freeman bucket but the cylinder I need has apparently been discontinued. I am in Vermont and the shop in NH was recommended to me but I would have to ship the cylinder because they are so far away or drive three hours to get there. I am still looking for a more local shop. I have some time because the tractor isn't going to be used until the snow melts and it was -22 this morning so the snow isn't melting anytime soon!

I wouldn't discount the JB weld repair. I have seen it used to fix a small leak just like this. You use a series of hose clamps over the sheet metal and while I agree that the JB weld fix definitely won't hold forever, I might get a season out of it, maybe even two? I will post something here when I try it and we will see if it works, I have a fair amount of corrosion on the cylinder wall so I am not holding my breath that it will actually work for very long... if at all.
 
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