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Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was comparing the new clutch plates with
the old ones. The old steel plates have a
definite dish but the new ones do not. Is
this going to be an issue or not?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Been a long time ago at the MF dealer I worked for. If I recall both drive and separator plates should be flat.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dished, or warped steels are junk on just about any kind of "automatic" type transmissions.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'd be interested in how you make out with it. My 205 wants to creep forward all the time and I have to bump the pedal to reverse to shift it. I think the plates are probably warped.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

According to the service manual the originals are dished. It only mentions that the dish of the plates should all face the same direction.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

By golly sir, you are RIGHT! I just checked the revers-o-matic book I have, they show to check each disc on a flat surface with the dish UP. The INSIDE clearance should be more than .005 inch, if not replace. New disc is .015-.018, also says on assembly have them all the same direction. Told you it's been a long time! LOL
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Interesting that the originals are dished, I wonder what the reason is behind that idea.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm thinking they had a slight dish to help the clutch apply a bit smoother as the discs flattened out under pressure. Been years since I had one apart.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm guessing they may be dished to insure
they fully release when disengaged.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ya I guess it would probably make for smoother engagement.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I guess i will find out how the new plates work when the rest of the parts come in and I can get it back together. Thanks for all your thoughts on this.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How much of a nightmare was getting the trans out? I think my forward seal is bad, leaks hydro fluid a lot.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not real easy but not terrible. No worse
than splitting for a regular manual
clutch. Ideally your gonna want a nice
flat slab to do the split on. I didn't
have that so I made a track and trolley
contraption. Your also going to need to
make some guides out of some 6" bolts. Cut
the heads off and round the tip over.
Replace some of the bell housing bolts
with the guide bolts so everything stays
lined up during first four inches of the
spilt. Otherwise it will ruin the pump.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Seems like if the slightly dished plates made it apply a lot smoother, or whatever that they would be using them in cars, and trucks. Still interesting though.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Any one ever rebuild an instant reverse transmission? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sound like they are heat warped any clutch pack i have worked on the plates are all flat
 
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