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kruser Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Well said "stated" welding man |
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PretendFarmer Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:33 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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I like the idea of the Farmall 460 with the 301.
Looking for a club with "stock" classes and speed limits are the best way I would start. I have come to see a lot more smiling faces in stock classes these days.
Obviously, club rules and general competition really sways what you do and without that being known, its hard to say what you should do.
I would prefer to aim at 3500# class or lighter if you can. Smaller equates to cheaper. Less weights to buy (then move), less trailer to buy, and can easily be hauled with "half ton" pickup.
Even getting into stock pulling gets expensive with the huge tractors, its way beyond what I can do.
If it were allowed, I want to experiment with a turbo farmall H. I think I have an ideal candidate for such, a distillate H. Its already low compression. I don't know how it'll go, or when I will get around to it but I know it'll be interesting someday.
Some simple fab skills and a turbo from a junkyard 4 cylinder gas car should be a good start. |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:33 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Very nice interesting article Vic. Now ur pulling a 435 Detroit and that allis d17 diesel ? |
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VicS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:51 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Yes Thinking of taking the 435 to the Farm Show in Louisville ky. This winter. Working off and on, on the D17. Have a appointment after first of year with engine builder to make it 600 plus. Using Cat pistons and my rods.
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:09 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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You want to run the 435 at Louisville for the vintage antique pullers group? What are the rules for the class the allis is in? And speed limit or anything or anything goes? Isn't the engine a 426 in it? Turboed I assume? Wouldn't think you would need much more,lol |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:28 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Hey Vics. Did you ever find that old antique puller magazine with the Waukesha 195 article. Is was Jan/feb 2011. If you did send me an email with your phone number, thanks john |
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MSD Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Find a creeper gear A JD. Open it up and you can pull 5000-7500. Not so much fun to watch but seen them run with the big ones. |
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VicS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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No turbo. Thats the lick. Rules are the same as Tunica USAP. There big deal is Baddest Antique in the World. 5250?-8 mph I will just pull top cut 3.5 mph. 3500 3750 4000. |
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VicS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Ill look again. No I never found it. |
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mdross Regular
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:25 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Our club like welding man's keeps it simple for us it's all about traction with a speed limit of 3.5mph all the horsepower in world is useless unless you can make the tires stick to the track. For me throttling back works best near the end of the pull tractor is almost back to idle with frontend pointing skyward. |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:40 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Ok thanks |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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I may be disappointed in my 310 then in Oliver 88. May just have to brush pull and add turbo |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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I may be disappointed in my 310 then in Oliver 88. May just have to brush pull and add turbo |
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VicS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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You can pull 3.5 to 4 mph with a 310 and be competitive. Find a 66 front end. And put trailer hubs on it. Makes up some of the weight difference of the 310. |
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4010 puller Long Time User
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:46 am Post subject: Re: competitive budget pullers |
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Ok as a non turbo diesel? I have 14.9"s on it and plan to pull 3-4 mph. Did you have time to look for the old antique puller magazine. If you don't find it, if you can email me the mans phone number that published the magazine, thanks John |
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