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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

not sure the year. Just got this tractor and I am doing a complete top engine overhaul.
If anyone has an idea to the approximate year that would help me
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

my guess is you have a 3400. Year? i was going to guess '69, but the bucket valves look different...mounted lower with longer sticks.
Here's good go-to site for S/N's. If it is 3400 look for a foil sticker under the lift up hood that covers the battery, although the block, etc. should be stamped.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree with it being a 3400 and they were built from 65 to 75 so you really need to get the numbers to pin point the year.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a 1966 Ford 3500 Industrial a while back

See the louvers on the side of the hood
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


its a soft nose 3400.. with 1965 to mid 1968 sheet metal.. however utility and industrial models tended to carry the older sheet metal longer than the all purpose farm models. Has probably a 730 loader on it. as others have said the numbers will tell exactly what it is or what is was,,, when it left the factory.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

well damn!
I had a guy at a "reputable tractor shop" tell me it is a 3000. And I have ordered a top end gasket kit for it and it is on its way. I don't suppose the 3000 kit works on the 3400?
anyone know?
I have this gasket kit..
http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-3000_Upper-Gasket-Set-158-or-175-CID-Diesel_HS2300.html
If this kit doesn't fit can anyone link me to a kit that does? I need the head gasket as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Pretty much same as 3000. Different front end, different oil pan. Rear-end ratio may be slower,
Tires are 24 inch industrial.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Got the number for this old tractor. If anyone can let me know what kind of tractor I have based on these numbers that would be swell.





 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

here are a few numbers. Can anyone tell me what kind I have based on the numbers on the photos below?



 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

http://www.springfieldbiz.com/oaktree/codes_short2.html
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

GOT IT!
Thanks for the help!

1965 - 1968 Utility Tractor with PTO and 8 speed tranny
It is a 3400 with a 4.2 bore. There were a few years where the cylinder bore was 4.4 but I put a caliper on mine this morning and it is a 4.2
Utility means a beefier front end and bigger loader.
The head goes on tomorrow!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


66 model serial numbers started at 124200
67 model serial numbers started at 161300
Your serial number of 143174 makes it a mid year 66 model
The letter C is for a US made tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

greymond wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:08:55 12/28/17) GOT IT!
Thanks for the help!

1965 - 1968 Utility Tractor with PTO and 8 speed tranny
It is a 3400 with a 4.2 bore. There were a few years where the cylinder bore was 4.4 but I put a caliper on mine this morning and it is a 4.2
Utility means a beefier front end and bigger loader.
The head goes on tomorrow!


The 3400 is the utility model in the 3000 series. All tractors in the 3000 series used the same engines. They were all 4.2 inch bore. The gasoline engines have a 3.8 inch stroke for 158 cubic inches, and the diesels have a 4.2 inch stroke for 178 cubic inches.

It was the 4000 series engines that had the 4.4 inch bore.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Correction to a typo in my previous post since you can't edit them once they are posted. The diesel 3000 series engines are 175 ci, not 178.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Please help identify the year Ford 3000 gasser.. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yup, you are correct. 4.4 bore in the 4000's 4.2 in the 3000's
I was on the phone with a parts guy telling me to make sure and measure the bore because it could possibly be a 4.4. Which is incorrect I have come to learn.
 
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