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panningbros
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just ordered an overhaul kit w/ the wet style sleeves. The pistons are already installed w/ rings into the sleeves. I've never put in a kit like this, but I've heard most of them come this way now. I used to like to get the sleeves into the block first then install the crankshaft & then push in the pistons and rods and bolt them up. What is the correct way to do these? Put all the sleeve/piston/rod combos and then put in the crank or put the crank in first? I'm tempted to push the pistons out of the sleeves and do it the way I know how.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Simply push the piston so the top of the piston is flush with the top of the sleeve. Put the crank in with the rod caps off and you should have no trouble lining things up as you do that
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-panningbros"](reply to post at 08:59:57 01/01/1Cool [/quote

I cant imagine installin them alltogether. It is simply a good way to inventory and ship them.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote


About all the factory John Deere liners come with pistons/rings in the liner. Simply push the pistons out the bottom of the liners just far enough to install your connecting rod and keepers.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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I cant imagine installin them alltogether. It is simply a good way to inventory and ship them.


Actually, it's not uncommon to do it that way, or to find instructions packed with the kit instructiong to do it that way, slide the piston down on the sleeve far enough to access the wristpin to install the rod, then install them as a unit.

Saves the risk of breaking piston rings.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I take them all the way out and recheck everything, Ring gap, See if the rings are installed on the pistons right side up and the gaps are positioned right. I don't trust anyone, My engine supplier told me they had more problems with the preloaded units than they did the others.That was enough excuse for me.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You would have to trust that they were properly cleaned from the factory. I wouldn't put them in without at least taking the pistons out and scrubbing the sleeves with detergent and hot water. And at least inspecting the rings.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yep that's the way the catapillar 3406's come too, all assembled, wrapped in plastic, you put old old ones in the box and return em.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Yea I've put a few of those 3406 Cat liner kits in, piston, rings, rod, all preassembled in the liner, good way to get your fingers pinched when the liner slipped in through the bottom seals.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: New engine sleeve kit install Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have overhauled several Deere engines and never pulled out the pistons and in fact John Deere does not recommend it. First dry fit the sleeves and check protrusion. Then install crank shaft and liner o-rings. Push the pistons out far enough to push the wrist pin through and install rods. Then start installing the sleeves into the block. Very simple.
 
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