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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I can't seem to get the linkage adjusted right. Set max throttle @ full with the stop adjustment, then the throttle will not go all the way to the minimum.
Once I start then engine and, just breath on throttle lever it goes to full speed.
This is my second new governor the first one the saddle was loose on the shaft and the connection to the proof cable started to spinning in the governor shaft, hence meter quit working.
CAN ANYONE POINT ME THE IN RIGHT DIRECTION Idea
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What did the original governor do? Why not fix that one?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The original governor never worked right either, and needed a rebuild, leaked badly and it didn't not have a proof cable connection, witch I wanted. So it was more cost effective to get a new one.

My tractor is a Hybrid, engine is a 9N everything else are a collection of found parts. I have used almost daily for 20 years.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

New governors, carborations, starter motors, generators, distributors are JUNK. Either fix the old original one or buy an OEM
one on ebay and rebuild it.

Here is a link to one on ebay. I don't know this seller but he has over 3000 stars with 100% reliability.
ebay gov

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-HCooke wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:41:18 01/12/1Cool New governors, carborations, starter motors, generators, distributors are JUNK. Either fix the old original one or buy an OEM
one on ebay and rebuild it.

Here is a link to one on ebay. I don't know this seller but he has over 3000 stars with 100% reliability.
ebay gov

I don't see the tack drive on that one.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I have already fixed the poor construction; knob for linkage to big for linkage ends have ground down to fit; penetrating lock-tight in the sleeve for proof cable.
Sims are ok, the balls are the same weight.
I need to know what the measurement is for the bend of the throttle arm "long one" not the linkage, but the arm on the governor.
Shocked somebody must know
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Several times I have seen people connect the throttle rod to the wrong governor lever. The one with the spring is the one to connect to. Carb goes to
the little sort lever.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

msgtusafret wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:31:37 01/12/1Cool
I have already fixed the poor construction; knob for linkage to big for linkage ends have ground down to fit; penetrating lock-tight in the sleeve for proof cable.
Sims are ok, the balls are the same weight.
I need to know what the measurement is for the bend of the throttle arm "long one" not the linkage, but the arm on the governor.
Shocked somebody must know




this might help you
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Looks close front distributor and coil flush mounted, were is your generator or alt.
Do you have a pic of the throttle end below the dash, may be that were my problem is.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

msgtusafret wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:19:49 01/12/1Cool
Looks close front distributor and coil flush mounted, were is your generator or alt.
Do you have a pic of the throttle end below the dash, may be that were my problem is.


The picture is of my 8n with a magneto, side mount block. Alternator is on other side. It was an industrial engine that PO installed. I will get a picture of below the dash later when I can.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's a picture of mine. Shiny part in front is the proofmeter
cable. Governor compensating spring below the linkage.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Thanx for the pic.
What function does that throttle compensating spring provide, I do not have one, never did, could that have my problem all along???
 
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(quoted from post at 11:00:50 01/13/1Cool
Thanx for the pic.
What function does that throttle compensating spring provide, I do not have one, never did, could that have my problem all along???


Mine when I did not have the spring the throttle lever would not stay up, the gov would push the lever down. That is why it is called the governor compensating spring.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Strange, that's not my problem....It's really cold out there but I put one on and see what changes thanx
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: new 8n governor will not govern. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Disconnect the end at the governor, the one from the front hand throttle and make sure it moves fairly easy. should really only feel the bumps on the plate.
 
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