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1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tall T wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:30:15 02/11/1Cool Rin,

Now all you have to do it call your tractor an NAA
and everyone here instantly knows it's a '54 !

If you said NAA Jubilee it would be a toss up

Good thing you threw in the "1954" to cinch the matter. Razz

T


I thought the 53 was the "Golden Jubilee", 54 is just "Jubilee" because it doesn't have the gold badge on the front but still has grey/silver badge...?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"I thought the 53 was the "Golden Jubilee", 54 is just "Jubilee""

Both are model NAA. The '53 was the "Golden Jubilee" to celebrate
Ford's 50th anniversary. The '54 was not a "Jubilee" at all. Just an NAA.
Same tractors either way, with minor differences on the early '53's.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bad news. I got the cover off the timing gear finally. Shattered gear. Worse news, there is a crack in the cam shaft at the back of the woodruff key slot that goes back to the cam bearing. Plus broke the cam bearing thrust plate (?) And front of woodruff key slot has two cracks, small piece of metal I can move by hand.

Looking like this old girl might be in for a total overhaul since the cam shaft probably needs replaced.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Case dealerships handle Ford tractor work now right? I don't know if I want to tackle a full rebuild with everything else I have going on this summer seems how it took me so long just to get this torn apart to see what was wrong with it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Pictures must be too big I resized now they seem to work...

My initial disgust...


Broken thrust plate (?)


Gear removed


Thrust plate remove, two cracks at front of woodruff slot, one at back goes back towards cam bearing


Missing a couple teeth on crankshaft

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

rininger85 wrote:
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Case dealerships handle Ford tractor work now right? I don't know if I want to tackle a full rebuild with everything else I have going on this summer seems how it took me so long just to get this torn apart to see what was wrong with it.


I would not take something old like that to a dealer.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where are you located rininger85?
I have a NAA engine that was running but had a bad crank so it
knocked badly. Crank, pistons and head have been removed but
the camshaft and gears are still in it. I haven't inspected them yet,
but if you're close to me I could pull them and see if they'd work
for you. I'm in Michigan.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Royse I'm in Eaton Rapids / Charlotte area, just south of Lansing so I'm probably within an hour of Ionia. If you can take a look and see if they are still in good shape I'd gladly work something out to come buy them from you.

I am a little I'll equipped to work on this sort of stuff at home. It took me this long because I was worried about doing something stupid and getting hurt since I don't have proper equipment to use for lifting this old girl... Just about lost her off the jack today when I was trying to put the axle back on for safety once I got the pull I needed off the front. Got her blocked up better now so hopefully won't have that issue again. Pulled the fuel tank off so I can get to the top of the engine and have the oil pan off. Looks good other than the front of the cam issues from what I'm seeing.

Is there a way to remove the cam without completely breaking the engine down or do I need to pull the crank to get the cam out? Easiest to just pull the engine out and work on a bench?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, you're within an hour of my house, give or take a couple minutes.
To me, it's easiest to put it on an engine stand and work on it.
I'm not saying it can't be done otherwise, just easier for me.
I'll get that engine out of the shed and take a look, I need another part
off it anyways, but it may take me a couple weeks with the 4th coming up.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, it was a good thought, and it might have been good since the
block still had oil and antifreeze in it, but I broke it pulling the gear.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Oops! Oh well, we can get one elsewhere. Is that thrust plate still in good shape that I could buy that off you? My dad is finding gears and a cam we can get online but not finding the thrust plate.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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Oops! Oh well, we can get one elsewhere. Is that thrust plate still in good shape that I could buy that off you? My dad is finding gears and a cam we can get online but not finding the thrust plate.

Thrust plate is good and I’m pretty sure I have a new cam gear here as well.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Royse wrote:
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rininger85 wrote:
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Oops! Oh well, we can get one elsewhere. Is that thrust plate still in good shape that I could buy that off you? My dad is finding gears and a cam we can get online but not finding the thrust plate.

Thrust plate is good and I’m pretty sure I have a new cam gear here as well.

I got that cam gear out and looked, it is not for a NAA so it won't help you.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 Ford NAA Jubilee died need help Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I've got a cam and both cam and crank gears here now. All I need now is the thrust plate. I'll send you a PM.
 
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