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How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel disk?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You guys have answered my question. I don’t have the ponies to pull it. 54 drawbar HP with duals.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's an interesting piece, looks in good shape for age.

Yea, offset, that is a little different than the common farm finishing disk. Meant to work hard, pull heavy.

Paul
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 13 ft I pull with a Case 800, 55HP.


 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I pull a 10' with my H, works fine if it does not dig too deep, would bet it would stall tractor in deep loam.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Friend farmed blackland clay back in the '60's just said an M handled their 10' just fine.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Camozzi04 wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:55:05 01/31/18) lets say worse case scenario. Fall virgin ground. No cornstalk. It’s a John Deere 10ft offset disk. Blades are not serrated.


Worst case is third or fourth pass when it is sinking deep. on Fall virgin ground your 54 horse would probably pull it but not very fast.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I pulled a 22ft wing IHC disc just barely with an F-20. I let the homemade drawbar swing so as to be able to make the corners. I later pulled it with an F-30 and had no problems. These are Farmall tractors.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check out the HP of an F-20 and F-30 Farmall. I pulled a bigger disc than that with them. Trick is to let the drawbar swing so that you can turn at the ends of the field.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Farmallb wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:54:40 02/01/18) Check out the HP of an F-20 and F-30 Farmall. I pulled a bigger disc than that with them. Trick is to let the drawbar swing so that you can turn at the ends of the field.
a question farmallb, I have a mm m-5 60 hp. and bought a 10 ft. mm disc like the one pictured above, (tandem not offset) so do you take the pins out of the drawbar plate that holds the draw bar centered or to one side or the other?? wouldn't the disc tend to wander around on you?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On whel disk always kept the drawbar oined fast in center and set short. On drag type of disk let drawbar swing for easier turning. But that was with smaller tractors than yours.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Leroy wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:12:22 02/02/18) On whel disk always kept the drawbar oined fast in center and set short. On drag type of disk let drawbar swing for easier turning. But that was with smaller tractors than yours.
thanks Leroy, will pin the draw bar in the center. but what do you mean by set short?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 10:17:14 02/02/18)
CVPost-Leroy wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:12:22 02/02/18) On whel disk always kept the drawbar oined fast in center and set short. On drag type of disk let drawbar swing for easier turning. But that was with smaller tractors than yours.
thanks Leroy, will pin the draw bar in the center. but what do you mean by set short?


Drawbars have multiple length settings, depending which hole in the drawbar you use to hold it in.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A lot of tractors have adjustable length drawbars with the long position for PTO powered inplements with a shorter setting for use with tillage tools and the like that does not require a long PTO position for hooking up and turning. The short position will not want to pull the tractor straight as you are trying to turn. The closer to center of rear axle if on your tractor or truck the hitch point is the easier to get it to go where you aim the front wheels. I don't know if your tractor has a 2 setting drawbar or only one setting for length but most that I have seen have the multi position for length. I know the Deeres that I had and the Fords had that. Now on a Farmall H or M the only adjustment for length was if you used the swinging drawbar or not.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: How much drawbar HP would it take to pull a 10ft wheel d Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Leroy wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:23:23 02/02/18) A lot of tractors have adjustable length drawbars with the long position for PTO powered inplements with a shorter setting for use with tillage tools and the like that does not require a long PTO position for hooking up and turning. The short position will not want to pull the tractor straight as you are trying to turn. The closer to center of rear axle if on your tractor or truck the hitch point is the easier to get it to go where you aim the front wheels. I don't know if your tractor has a 2 setting drawbar or only one setting for length but most that I have seen have the multi position for length. I know the Deeres that I had and the Fords had that. Now on a Farmall H or M the only adjustment for length was if you used the swinging drawbar or not.
thank you guys will check the draw bar on the m5 when I get it in for it's winter rehab
 
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