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Bruce (VA)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

" Just to clarify the silver round object with wires is a starter switch?"

Yes. It's not a solenoid.

" Is the button with the rod obsolete with the engine change to a newer year?"

Well, if you want to start the tractor from now on by jumping the starter switch with a screwdriver you could forget about the push button..........

Did you miss my first reply to you? I said " When you press the starter switch, it pushes a piece of linkage into the switch which manually closes the contacts and completes the circuit. Unlike a solenoid which electrically closes the contacts and completes the circuit. "
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"Is the button with the rod obsolete with the engine change to a newer year?

No the button and rod should contact the back of the starter switch. Those switches do go bad. Remove it and test it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tfarr wrote:
Is the button with the rod obsolete with the engine change to a newer year?


Your start mechanism should have all of the parts in this photo:


 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The Ford 9N Tractor was produced from 1939 thru late 1942. It then became the 2N model with a few changes. The 2N was produced from 1942 thru mid 1947. The 9N and 2N used a 3-speed transmission with draft control only hydraulics. The 8N went to a 4-speed tranny with POSITION CONTROL added to the hydraulics. A little lever under the RH side of seat is the setting device. ALL 9N and 2N models use the "9N" prefix in their engine block serial numbers preceded and ending with a star symbol. Go to John Smiths site to learn more -LINK below. Also, get the essential manuals to better understand your tractor and the parts it has. All 9N, 2N, and early 8Ns have the front mount distributor with and originally the 6-volt/positive ground electrical system. Many N's have been converted to 12-volts. What do you have? What is important is you know how to deal with the front mount distributor and however your electrical system is now set up as. New batteries can be junk out of the box. Simply charging it does not make it 'good'. Get it tested -your trusty local starter/alternator shop has the special bench test equipment to test it with. The battery must sustain a charge under load to crank the engine over with especially when temps dip below freezing. Bargain house batteries have poor lifespans -2 years on average. Invest in a decent brand like DEKA, INTERSTATE, or EXIDE. 9N and 2N models do not use a solenoid on the starter, but, as Bruce pointed out, you are confusing the solenoid with the starter button -two different animals. Get the manuals, get a copy of Bruce's 75 Tips -just click on it and download it to your hard drive and print it out for reference. The next step is to verify the wiring. You can go thru it while your shop is testing the battery. Do an internet search for WIRING PICTOGRAMS by JMOR or go to the other Ford N Tractor site. Find the system you have and verify it is correct with NO deviations and you can't go wrong. Don't just start replacing parts without knowing if they are good or bad. Start with the basics -manuals and documents, battery test, and wiring verification, and you just might find the true root cause.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-HCooke"](quoted from post at 10:16:33 02/07/1Cool "Is the button with the rod obsolete with the engine change to a newer year?

No the button and rod should contact the back of the starter switch. Those switches do go bad. Remove it and test it.[/quote]

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-Tim PloughNman Dal"](reply to post at 05:30:07 02/08/1Cool [/quote]

Thank you for your help
 
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