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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:08 pm Post subject: '49 9N not starting |
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'49 9N
Died while running
Acts like the battery is completely dead.
New battery
New Solenoid
Will start and run if the solenoid is jumped.
Starter button is a rod not wires. |
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greywolf224 Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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Tfarr wrote: | (quoted from post at 00:08:57 02/06/1 '49 9N
Died while running
Acts like the battery is completely dead.
New battery
New Solenoid
Will start and run if the solenoid is jumped.
Starter button is a rod not wires. |
Do you mean a 39 9N or a 49 8N?
Explain starter button is a rod not wires?
Jumping a solenoid and it keeps running would lend me to think you are pretty much narrowed down to a dirty connection bad solenoid or whatever the rod thingy is. |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="greywolf224"](reply to post at 21:37:29 02/05/1 [/quote]
I was told it is a '49 9N, so I am not sure.
I was told the button you push to start the tractor would have wires which may need to be checked. I took the button off and it was a rod not wires. |
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greywolf224 Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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I take it you mean the rod at the bottom of this button. If so that Rod disables you from starting the tractor When the tranny is in gear. Needs to be in neutral. If you look at the side of that button there’s a small screw. A wire needs to be attached to that screw and back to you solenoid. If the tractor is in neutral you’re allowed to press the button therefor grounding the solenoid and spinning the starter
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greywolf224 Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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BTW The above is for an 8N. |
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Bruce (VA) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 am Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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You either have a 49 8N or a 39 9N.
The very first thing you need to do is figure out what tractor you have. It will make troubleshooting and buying parts a lot easier.
Click on the link: http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm
2 and 9N?s did not come from the factory with solenoids. They all had mechanical starter switches. When you press the starter switch, it pushes a piece of linkage into the switch which manually closes the contacts and completes the circuit. Unlike a solenoid which electrically closes the contacts and completes the circuit.
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HCooke Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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Does your tractor have a three or four speed transmission? That will tell us if you have a 9N or 8N. Also can you post a picture of your
solenoid? |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="CVPost-HCooke"](quoted from post at 12:05:03 02/06/1 Does your tractor have a three or four speed transmission? That will tell us if you have a 9N or 8N. Also can you post a picture of your
solenoid?[/quote]
I will post a pick when I get home. I has a three speed. |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:33 am Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="CVPost-HCooke"](reply to post at 12:05:03 02/06/1 [/quote]
It has a mechanical starter switch. I wonder if they added the solenoid later. It is new.
I will take pictures when I get home. |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="Tfarr"](reply to post at 12:33:48 02/06/1 [/quote] |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="Tfarr"](reply to post at 17:32:48 02/06/1 [/quote][img][/img]
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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HCooke Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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Sounds like you have a 9N (3 speed trans) with a 1948 8N engine in it. Not a problem and not the first time it's been done. You picture is a
started switch and not a solenoid. The switches go bad. If you need to replace it get a stater switch for a later 9N or 2N. The early 9N
switches wit on the dash and will not work for your tractor. |
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Tfarr New User
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: '49 9N not starting |
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[quote="CVPost-HCooke"](reply to post at 18:01:06 02/06/1 [/quote]
Thank you for your help.
Just to clarify the silver round object with wires is a starter switch? That is what I am jumping to get it to start (putting a screwdriver across the posts).
Is the button with the rod obsolete with the engine change to a newer year? |
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