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bass
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

looking at paint for my 300

local IH has their paint of course, and i have that option. $$$$$

talked to the local auto parts aint gonna name names, has a single stage paint.

question is what is a single stage paint does it need hardner, reducer, can it be done under a shade tree, what ppe is required.

looking fore something better than the junk at tsc

bass
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I use Martin Senior Crossfire single stage paint from NAPA and I like it!! I do use the hardener but I also have a
SAS (supplied air system) for breathing, DO NOT USE HARDENER WITHOUT ONE!! You can use the paint
without the hardener but think u get a much better shine and a more durable paint using the hardener!! Like most
automotive paint it is much more expensive then the TSC type paint but I feel it retains its gloss and luster much
much longer, doesn?t fade near as fast!!! Just my 2 cents worth!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Single stage paint is paint you spray on and you're done. No clearcoat is required. CaseIH paint is single stage.

Hardener is optional. All it does is make the paint cure quicker. Hardener is bad stuff on your lungs, and a regular respirator will NOT protect you from it.

I know people poo-poo any warnings about hardeners, "Well I've painted dozens of tractors with hardener, don't even use a respirator, and if I get thirsty while painting, I just take a swig and I'm PERFECTLY FINE!!!" It doesn't affect some people. Others it puts in the hospital with one whiff. Then it can be sneaky. You can be fine the first time, but the next time it drops you because the first exposure sensitized you to it...
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Way back when, we painted our SMTA & super C with
Rust-oleum IH red. The paint still looks good after
25 years.
I'm guessing it was lead based paint. The dealership
in town only used this paint on their re- paints on
the letter series & up to the 460s & 560s.

I never see Rust-oleum mentioned here when talking
about painting.
Has the product had bad reviews since they removed
the lead from it? Just wondering.
Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I seriously doubt it was a lead based paint unless 25 years ago you used 15 year old paint on your tractor (lead was removed from all paint in 1978). I used Rustoleum IH Red (oil base equipment paint) on my 350 back in 1998. It looked really good until about 4 years ago. It is starting to get some serious sun fade even though it spends a vast majority of its time under a roof.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have used Rust Oleum after sand blasting and using their primer several times and it does stand up great after many yrs and use. Cannot find anything wrong with it will use again after painting several As and Bs and Cs.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote


There are multiple varieties of "single stage" and like someone else said, it just means that it does not need clearcoated.

Some single stage paints absolutely need a hardener/activator but others like your dealer paint would not *need* it.

You can do whatever you want under a shade-tree but that sounds like a great place to get a lot of debris in the paint job.

At a minimum you need to be able to keep fresh air in whatever enclosure you paint in, and use a tight seal respirator with the correct cartridges in it. More preferably, use the SAS as recommended.

I see a lot of people slam Van Sickle paint but I don't for the life of me see why. I would imagine that they are using one of their lesser lines of paint. Their acrylic enamel with hardener seems to me to be very good paint and is a very nice red. You can email them or call and they will send you paint spray outs for IH red and likely multiple ones to choose from.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: single stage paint Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Iron-Gard from the IH dealer as recently as 2005 most definitely had red lead in it. And was really nice paint. I used it on the snow blade on my Cub around then and it still looks freshly painted.
 
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