Yesterday's Tractor Co.
Shop Now View Cart
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile    Log inLog in 

Corn planter questions?

Goto page 1, 2  Next

 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
NYOlivers
Regular


Joined: 03 Sep 2017
Posts: 453


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So I have been doing some research and looking at some different planters, mostly online and used not new ones. Anyway I am looking to purchase a planter possibly this year if not definitely next. I am going to be adding some acres in the next year to my "hobby farm" and I stress that is what it is just a hobby right now, I have a full time job and other comment's also. I just like to use the tractors and equipment we have and have restored. So I am looking to my upgrade my planting operation, but I am not sure what to look for exactly. I just have an old 2 row plate planter that I use now to plant sweet corn. What I am looking for is a 4 row finger style planter with dry fertlizer and set to 30" rows to plant field corn. I have been looking at JD 7000 series planters. Them seem to be very popular and parts avaiablity seems to be good. I see a few for sale but there are on 36" rows, like I said I want to go for 30" rows because I will probably have to hire a local guy to combine my first few years of harvest and most everyone around here uses 30" rows. So now I guess my questions are: 1- If I find a good planter that I can afford such as a JD-7000 and it is set to 36" spacing how hard would it be to narrow it down to 30" spacing? 2- I will be doing conventional till, If I found a no till or conservation planter can I use it when doing conventional tillage? Or is there alot of things that would have to be changed over? I guess that's it for now, thanks in advance.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
paul
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Dec 1997
Posts: 24955


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A conservation jd 7000 is kinda rare in 4 row, it has everything bolted to the main beam and you can slide it together easily to 30 inch.

A normal 7000 4 row has a rock shaft with set wheel spacing, you have to do some torch and welding to move the wheels in.

Then, the markers are a bit too long, you likely have to set them for the front wheel to follow, instead of the center of the tractor.

Short answer, others have done it and will have better answers.

Paul
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Unless you enjoy wrenching and metal working you are not going to enjoy refitting a wide row drawn (rock shaft lift) 7000 to a narrow row. I also don't see that many wide row 4 row 7000 planters selling for way under what a narrow row sells for. I would also offer that there is a 4 row narrow 7000 for sale of Craigslist over in Hamburg which is south of Buffalo for cheap money. Yep, she needs work but the Shoup catalog just came in the mail so you can figure what it is going to take to make it functional. There also are places to grab used parts such as fertilizer boxes and tanks. She ain't pretty but I would rather spend time and money wire brushing plus painting than rehabbing but that is just me. If you don't care about pretty I am sure it would plant sweet corn once you went through it.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The ad is not currently up but he has a dozen pieces listed from time to time and nothing seems to sell. Right now he has a 6620 combine and a 3020 listed so click on those ads for contact information.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NEMOfarmkid
Regular


Joined: 21 Sep 2017
Posts: 58


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I made the mistake of not getting a 7000 to use. Narrow row versions of the 7000 can be had for 750 dollars a row around me (northeast Missouri). A 7000 is light years ahead of a 494 Deere or 540 Oliver.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Leroy
Tractor Guru


Joined: 09 Jan 1998
Posts: 18414
Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And it might be light years ahead but the 494A is a better planter than the 7000. The only thing is they did not make a plateless yet at that time.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 1240 was made several years ahead of the 7000 and was plateless. You can have a 494A and I'll still prefer a 7000. I wish Coonie Minnie was around as he had a good story about the 7000 and his relatives. In short it took a lot of convincing to get his older relatives interested in making a change from older equipment and practices to something new. Shortly after the 7000 came out one of his uncles drove past a neighboring field that had been planted by a 7000. His uncles had a new 7000 for the following spring.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
kenny kabat
Regular


Joined: 18 Mar 2014
Posts: 34


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Personally I would strongly consider a 6 row 30 inch. They are cheaper, because everyone wants 4 rows for food plots. With a 6 row you will match it up with a small combine with a 3 row head. Gleaner k, John Deere 3300, etc. Then with the same planter the switch to a 6 row machine is easy.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Everybody's area is different but around here a 6 row that is not totally rusted out will bring more than a 4 row.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
paul
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Dec 1997
Posts: 24955


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, the 7000 is about as good a planter as there is. The improvements since are to handle bigger, faster, more acres more seed.

There are lots of attachments to add or modify a 7000 into whatever a person wants for their situation. They aren?t the perfect notill planter, but they work great out of the box and can easily be modified to do anything else special you want on a small or medium size patch of dirt.

Gerald J is the one who posted some pics here I think, and over on the big Ag site, of modifying his 38 inch to a 30 inch planter. I thought I posted a link here yesterday, maybe I dreamed that or maybe the moderators don?t like being compared tot he other site....

I?ll try posting Gerald?s pics, but of late pic posting doesnt always work right for me either......

Paul



 
Back to top
View user's profile
paul
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Dec 1997
Posts: 24955


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like that worked. So he had the straps coming up from the wheels cut off of the round pipe, and moved over and collars welded back on the pipe at the right spacing.

Paul
 
Back to top
View user's profile
paul
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Dec 1997
Posts: 24955


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, my 6-30 was right near $10,000 a few years ago, around here you are biddding against exporters that are selling to Mexico and Ukraine, you won?t find any bargains of these machines ?here.?

The 4 row wide tend to go 2500 bucks in good shape, $1500 if it was out in the fence row for a while and no fertilizer and some Fiberglass busted up.

A good point is that they probably need some work, so getting one that you can see needs some work and go ahead and buy replacement parts isn?t such a bad idea. The pivot holes get wallowed out and the row units will wobble up and down, need new holes drilled and bushings put in. The corn meters wear and rust, a good upgrade is to not bother with them and get the Presition Planting meters and seed tubes they are a tad more accurate.

Of course for a food plot or 10 acres a person can fix them up a lot cheaper and accept a little slop drive slower, it depends what it is you want to do, hoping yield real cropping or just doing some small scale farming. Drive slower and most of the issues don?t show up much. Not trying to suggest anyone spend too much for small results.

Paul
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 7000 4 row narrow in good shape will bring at least 2,750- 3,000 dollars and if mint close to 4,000 dollars. The last 7000 4 row wide I saw sell was around 2,300 dollars and for sure needed some fixing. I just don't think it is worth it to cut a 4 row wide down into a narrow planter unless you really enjoy metalworking for would could only be a few hundred dollars difference. The Mennonites here drive prices on these planters. I heard of an instance where a well to do fellow bought a 7000 4 row narrow to collect because his dad had one when he was a kid.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
NY 986
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 5015


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would bet that it is well over 15 years ago I saw that wide row 7000 sell. Still a few guys using wide row pickers, forage harvesters, and combine corn heads then.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
paul
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Dec 1997
Posts: 24955


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Corn planter questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The smaller dairy folk held onto wide rows the longest around here. Often they have combine picker, and forage chopper, gets expensive to change so many machines. As well they grow fewer soybeans, and wide row soybeans are the real losers. 38 inch corn really isn?t all that bad a deal for yields.

It?s getting harder to find help with spraying or harvest tho.

For a time the push was on to go to 20 or 15 inch rows for corn and beans, but a lot have returned to 30 inch. White mold on beans, and the rather low yield bump vs the cost of the equipment put many back to 30 inch.

Paul
 
Back to top
View user's profile
:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Implement Alley All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). Expedited shipping available, just call! Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors. Compare our super low shipping rates! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor. We are a company you can trust and have generous return policies. Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ About Us ]

YT Home  |  Forums

Modern View Forum powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters