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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Finnaly saw one of these today. On u- tube you can see this in action. Guy is in Montana. This has many miles on it to say the least. F

 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

measuring wheel.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some folks call that a traveler [not sure of the spelling].

Roll that around the circumference of a wooden wagon wheel to determine the length of steel needed for the steel "tire". Count the turns, plus the remainder.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, but do you know the name. Watch the video. About 80% through he shows you how the tool works. It is just so simple and accurate. This guy has over 100 videos of working on wagons and everything you could think of how to fix or make. He build repro 20. Mule team wagons.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yup. This one has had a rough life as you can see and I now realize the Iindictator is missing. Was just neat to see such a tool. Not only wheels but a cooper could use it too. The one he is using in the video you can see has numerical Mark's or some kind of measurement system. I am guessing it is inches. Old tools are fascinating.





 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We watched a blacksmith do a wheel building demonstration down in the Missouri Ozarks a few years ago. The traveler that he had matched the one in your original photos. It only had one register mark on it - no scale. It's really simple - I can see myself turning it into a complicated job.

The demonstration was interesting - the guy made the spokes out of elm, and the froe segments out of oak. He also pointed out the geometry of the wheel - how the spokes were slightly canted so they would tighten up, rather than loosen, on a hillside. There's a lot to look at on a wagon wheel.

Thanks for the interesting pictures - and not only these - you post a lot of interesting pictures.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank much! Take a look at this guys videos. You just can't stop watching. And he does almost everything himself!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've spent hrs. watching videos from Engels coach shop, the guy is fascinating and a fountain of talent, can't
believe the things he does worth spending the time to watch!!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do basically the same thing in measuring fence line,measure the distance around a tractor tire paint a spot on the tire and count the number of rotations to figure how much fence I'll need.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-PJH wrote:
Roll that around the circumference of a wooden wagon wheel to determine the length of steel needed for the steel "tire".


Probably didn't have tape measures back then, but the same job could be done with a string. The traveler device seems to be making a simple job more complicated than it needed to be. Then again, I've never built a steel shod wooden wheel so what do I know!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you tried holding a piece of string around the INSIDE of a metal hoop? Good luck!

That's where a traveler shines. It's for transferring the outside dimension of a wheel or hub to the inside of a band or tire. You can't do that nearly as accurately with a piece of string or a tape measure.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you know from the show. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

BarnyardEngineering wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:46:57 02/21/19) Have you tried holding a piece of string around the INSIDE of a metal hoop? Good luck!

That's where a traveler shines. It's for transferring the outside dimension of a wheel or hub to the inside of a band or tire. You can't do that nearly as accurately with a piece of string or a tape measure.


Ahh, got it. I thought it was to measure the wheel and then transfer that to a piece of flat bar to be rolled and welded into a ring.
 
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