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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have 600 ford tractor either 55-56 I think? The last couple of years the points would be burned out. I replaced it with an electronic ignition last year and it ran fine. This year it wouldn't start. I put fuel addivite and new fuel in the tank it wouldn't start. I check the key to the coil with a test light it was good. I check the coil from the distributor with the test light and it was good. I check the pugs with a spark plug analyzer and the spark was white. I read online that the spark should be blue and replace the coil, it still was still white with the spark pug analyzer. I have had drain the fuel in the tank and put in new fuel, no start. I have cleaned out the sediment bowl and put the new filter, no start. I have turned the screw under the carburetor and gas was come out. I have put my hand over the air input of the carburetor and it has suction. I have put starting fuld in the carburetor still will not start. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hines,You possibly folded your plugs,replace them with some NGK 3112 plugs they arr much better than champions or autolites.Replace them set gap at .025 then give it a snort of starting fluid into the carb intake when cranking it over.Try it without choke first just starting fluid.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with a spark plug analyzer. Does white mean a weak spark? Is that why you read on line that, that meant the coil was bad? I don't know. However, have you looked inside the distributor cap and distributor itself for moisture? I'm betting on ignition trouble rather than fuel. Is your tractor a 6 volt or 12 volt? I ask, because burned points is caused by something else wrong. Bad condenser, key left on, 6 volt coil without a resister on a 12 volt conversion.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have tried the starting fluid. A mechanic said that the even with a white spark it should start.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What I read online it should have blue streak. A mechanic said it should start even with a white streak .I have put in electronic ignition instead of points. It is 12 volt system.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hines77 wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:16:57 04/20/19) What I read online it should have blue streak. A mechanic said it should start even with a white streak .I have put in electronic ignition instead of points. It is 12 volt system.
pay attention.....what Den said, plugs probably fouled. Clean and dry or replace.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Put in new plugs no start. I also put in starting fluid no start. Do you think I should replace the electron ignition?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hines,#1 is the battery good and fully charged it must be!Does it have spark at all 4 plug wires that will jump a 1/4",using a spark tester or a old plug opened up a 1/4 " grounded on the head.DO you have the firing order correct,Have you had the distributor out.You may need to do a compression test to see whats up.Or you could try a teaspoon of motor oil down each plug hole to bring the compression up after being flooded and the cylinders washed out.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hines77 wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:51:11 04/22/19) Put in new plugs no start. I also put in starting fluid no start. Do you think I should replace the electron ignition?


No - your problem is elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The battery is new and charged. I didn't test with new pugs but with old plugs, I did have a white spark. It has electron ignition.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can you think of anything else I can check? I have ordered a new electron ignition to put on.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have put a new coil, plugs and ordered a new electron ignition. Could leaving the key on causes your electron ignition to go bad? But if the electron ignition did n't work there wouldn't be spark right?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Would you try taking the distributor out before putting a tablespoon of oil in plug hole? How hard is it to take out the distributor out?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[No dom't take the distributor out,I just asked if you have had it out .to know if it was out of time.Try the teaspoon or a squirt of oil with a pump can ect in the plug holes to bring up the compression before trying to start it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 600 ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Do you think the timing could be out sink? Could this be the reason for not starting?
 
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