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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Alternative to sandblasting ? Rust Bullit,POR 15, Eastwood rust encapsulator, anyone try these ?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Many many many pages of discussions on these products here.It is a very popular topic. My most common procedure is to clean first with a flap wheel, and a cup type twisted wire wheel. After removing 99% of the rust I apply phosphoric acid rust converter, because the microscopic particles of rust that are left in pits and dings can lift your new paint in 2-3 years. One needs to follow the instructions when using the rust converters. I wash with aggressively with water then wipe down with alcohol to prevent flash rust. Their are other favored methods such as electrolysis. There is a comprehensive article about this in your Antique Power magazine that came yesterday. There are also the EDTA rust dissolvers that work well.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

EDTA? Is that like Evapo-Rust?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

EDTA is what is called a chelating agent (ethylene diamine tetra-acetic acid). They will give you this if you have heavy metal poisoning. Last time I used it was in college for titrations. Interesting someone found a way to remove rust with it.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Mike(NEOhio) wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:22:10 04/26/19) EDTA? Is that like Evapo-Rust?


Yes, Mike Evaporust is one of them. I couldn't remember the name so I used the ingredient. The company that I work for uses a lot of EDTA in producing mechanical ware washing detergents.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's what I thought, I just never noticed the active ingredient. I've been using it for a few years and love it for parts I can soak. Works great if you're not looking for instant gratification.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Alternative to sandblasting on what? Some things sandblasting is the only way. If the project isn't very big and you can get to it a knotted wire wheel on an angle grinder does very well.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Stephen Newell wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:50:33 04/26/19) Alternative to sandblasting on what? Some things sandblasting is the only way. If the project isn't very big and you can get to it a knotted wire wheel on an angle grinder does very well.




Stephen, really?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Simplest and cheapest is remove the big stuff, with your favorite technique, then soak in vinegar for a few days. Bingo, it removes all the rust, leaves behind clear metal, sometimes black oxidized metal.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What do you mean?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not a small soaking project. I talking plow size...
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 10:10:01 04/27/19) Not a small soaking project. I talking plow size...


Hemi, as I posted first, flap wheel. If you have not used one before you will want a respirator mask because you will be in a cloud of rust dust. I assume that you are restoring so you will need to follow up with rust converter to kill the rust in the pits.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:23:13 04/27/19)
CVPost-69hemi wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:10:01 04/27/19) Not a small soaking project. I talking plow size...


Hemi, as I posted first, flap wheel. If you have not used one before you will want a respirator mask because you will be in a cloud of rust dust. I assume that you are restoring so you will need to follow up with rust converter to kill the rust in the pits.


Flap wheels are really good at gouging and making a wavy finish, especially if you have never used one.

There really is no replacement for sand blasting.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yakob wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:00:06 04/29/19)
showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:23:13 04/27/19)
CVPost-69hemi wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:10:01 04/27/19) Not a small soaking project. I talking plow size...


Hemi, as I posted first, flap wheel. If you have not used one before you will want a respirator mask because you will be in a cloud of rust dust. I assume that you are restoring so you will need to follow up with rust converter to kill the rust in the pits.


Flap wheels are really good at gouging and making a wavy finish, especially if you have never used one.

There really is no replacement for sand blasting.


No way I would sandblast a plow share, LOL. I would have to follow up with a flap wheel to smooth it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Rust Removal Methods Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 13:01:42 04/29/19)
yakob wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:00:06 04/29/19)
showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:23:13 04/27/19)
CVPost-69hemi wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:10:01 04/27/19) Not a small soaking project. I talking plow size...


Hemi, as I posted first, flap wheel. If you have not used one before you will want a respirator mask because you will be in a cloud of rust dust. I assume that you are restoring so you will need to follow up with rust converter to kill the rust in the pits.


Flap wheels are really good at gouging and making a wavy finish, especially if you have never used one.

There really is no replacement for sand blasting.


No way I would sandblast a plow share, LOL. I would have to follow up with a flap wheel to smooth it.


I thought this was to be painted? You can create gobs of wave with a flap wheel that will look like garbage with paint on them.
 
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