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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I painted my Farmall A with HVLP using Rustoleum "Farm Equipment" paint. I got it from Amazon and today picked up what I thought was the same thing at Tractor Supply. I just noticed that it is "Farm and Implement" both are International Red.
So what is the difference?



 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can't tell you the difference. I know I painted a Kubota tractor about 10 years ago with farm and implement paint and it's holding up pretty good. It hasn't faded very much at all.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I sent Rustoleum a message. The description on both products mentions a brush and nothing that distinguishes one from the other.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:45 am    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It may be the paints are the same except for the amount of thinner. The farm and implement paint was thin enough I could spray it without thinning it. You just have to wait to hear from them. Since it's formulated for implements too, it might have some urethane resins in it. They should put this kind of info on the cans instead of warning labels in multiple languages.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you add the gloss hardener (which I recommend highly) you need to mix in a little enamel reducer for the hardener to work correctly. On your deal chances are they slightly changed the label, so you got one with the old, and one with the new label.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So they said that the implement paint was more durable and fade resistant. Also, you can paint over the equipment paint with the implement paint after 48 hours.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 18:45:05 08/02/19) So they said that the implement paint was more durable and fade resistant. Also, you can paint over the equipment paint with the implement paint after 48 hours.
The hardener will still makes it last much longer than it does out of the can. Another plus with the hardener is that you can sand, and buff out any runs, or dull spots. Without the hardener you can't, you will have to respray it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That would mean the implement paint has stronger solvents in it and would dry faster. Even after 48 hours if you sand the paint with too coarse paper the solvents can get under the equipment paint and lift it. If you roughen the surface just use a scotchbrite pad or like 400 grit paper to keep that from happening.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good info. Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have been mixing with the following:
5 parts paint
2 parts acetone
10cc valspar hardner

Any thoughts? It is fine but maybe it can be improved?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry meant ounces...
5 oz. Paint
2 oz Acetone
10cc hardner

I double as needed because I have been painting parts as I remove them
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Acetone is too harsh. It might damage the resins that make it up. I went and got a can of the implement paint and the label instructions say to use mineral spirits. Spraying it though you could use naphtha. I wouldn't use anything stronger.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I read that as well. I saw internet articles that said mineral spirits or thinner took longer to dry so I went with the acetone. I will look into naphtha.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mineral spirits does make the paint dry slower. They recommend that for people that apply the paint with a brush. Naphtha is a suitable solvent that dries faster is why it's recommended for spraying the paint.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Rustoleum 2 types? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Actually the regular Rustoleum in a can, used to recommend to thin with acetone if spraying....
 
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