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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bought this for my 300u. No serial tag or any info on it. Just trying to see if I can do some research etc on it. Any ideas? Make and model would be awesome but any information works.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It looks somewhat like an old Wagner loader, that type were "affectionately" called "Jungle Gym" loaders.

You might start by GOOGLING "Wagner Loader".
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It is a u34 IH loader. To me it is the original 'quick attatch' loader. I could put it on or off in 10 minutes or less. There are 2 brackets that slide into the pockets below the grill frame, that remain on the tractor bolster. There are spacers that hold the fenders up off the rear axle about 3/4", so that the rear mount bolts could slide under the fender and into the plate on the backside of the axle. 2 bolts on each side. Your loader has had an add on hydraulic valve. My tractor is equipped with factory valves that are ahead of the rear fast hitch valve beside the seat. The outlets are mounted on the side of housing below the steering box, 3 on the right, and 1 on the left.
To remove or attach it to the tractor, it needs to hang from the bar that goes across the main frame just ahead of the rear upper pivot points. We just used a chain and a turn buckle.Also your front axles have to be narrowed up all the way or just out one hole on each side. I could have it on or off faster than I can type all this! Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mark,

Lots of great information! Thanks so much! The hydraulic controls were added later on its life and the plate it?s mounted on is well... scary. Once I get the tractor running and this together that will be addressed. I was told the tractor it came off of didn?t have the controls under the seat, but came off of a couple of ?pass-thru? he called it on that side. There are a couple of spots that may be. I?m not sure how but I will figure it out. All the hydraulic hoses should be replaced, one of them is very sketchy in my eyes...

You were saying about a quick attach and take off. I kind of see this, but how did you ?drive in? to hook up? Was there a set of stands for it or something? I have the brackets for the front fender, the previous owner could not find the rear brackets, so I need to manufacture them.

The previous owner also mentioned something about fender placement being important, even mentioning that they might have to be removed. Any tips?

Also any issues with interference from the exhaust or headlights?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey Bob! I appreciate the reply! I was definitely thinking Wagner as it looked similar to ones I saw on old Deere?s. I also read that Wagner disappeared in 55, the year the 300u came out. I didn?t know if someone acquired them or?

I love researching and learning about this old ag!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Karl, there are no stands. You have to hang the loader from the cross brace that runs between the 2 upper, rear pivots. When the loader is attached, this brace is just behind the gas cap. Dad always used 1 turn buckle and chain, but I used 2, left and right-which I thought was a little better. The front receivers that mount on the tractor are held on the bolster with 2 1/2" bolts, and are shaped just like the pockets they fit into-you should have got them with the loader! The rear braces butt up to the axle, and fit into a slot on the axle. 2 long 5/8ths bolts go thru the loader holes above and below the axle, just under the fender,(so the fender is 'spaced' up 5/8") and thru a 1/2" thick plate that goes against the backside of the axle. These are the only bolts to remove and attach the loader.
To attach it simply (have it hanging) drive into it. The long frame tubes will go below the headlights, then you push them down with your feet as you pull forward, and guide them up to the rear axle, as you watched the front receivers go into their pockets. Sometimes I would put the pto on(lever up) for a little clearance, as I pulled in. The large bucket cylinders have to 'float', as you pull in or out, so that you can move the frame up and down to align it.
My 300u has been in our family since it was 1 yr old, and has 7700+ hrs on it. It is still 6 volt, starter has never been off. Original coil, wiring, but the generator has been rebuilt and the regulator replaced. Starts in 1 or 2 revolutions in any situation, 0* cold, or engine hot. I sold the loader from it about 14 years ago, when I bought a CIH 485 with a loader. By the way - you will want power steering. Mine does not have it, but I am interested in the Jackson power steering setup. Good luck, Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For your other post question, we always had fluid in the tires, and wheel weights. I do not know the part #. And when using the loader we usually had the fast hitch plows on it for counter weight, or sometimes the disc. Plows are UF-2(I THINK!) and the disc is F-85. Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What loader is this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like I took you down a great trip down memory lane! Thanks so much for the responses. I have a much better idea of what that project will entail... I?m hoping once the loader is on the tractor that that?s it, but we?ll see!
 
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