Yesterday's Tractor Co.
Shop Now View Cart
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile    Log inLog in 

Ford 3000 mystery transmission

Goto page 1, 2  Next

 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Thelumberwagon
Regular


Joined: 15 Sep 2019
Posts: 25


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:56 pm    Post subject: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm looking at a Ford 3000 for sale with a brush hog for $1000. From what I can tell it's a 1969. I'm puzzled by the transmission. It's only got one shifter and there is another boot (about the size of the shifter boot but with a 90 degree angle) on top of the transmission cover that has electrical wires coming from it and going into the engine compartment. Before I buy this, I want to make sure This isn't some oddball tractor that I should avoid. The tractor needs some work and front tires but it's got front and rear weights and I figure for $1000 I can't really go wrong...can I?

I've scoured the net for some information on the transmission but all I find are dual shifters and SOS.

Any help would be very appreciated.

Thanks
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Bern
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Apr 1999
Posts: 6769


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

One shift lever would make it a 4-speed transmission. That would be quite rare on a 3000 I would think.
4 speed

 
Back to top
View user's profile
3000OH
Long Time User


Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 708
Location: SW Ohio

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rare and not very desirable or usable or valuable in my opinion.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Ultradog MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 22 Apr 2001
Posts: 24656
Location: Twin Cities

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

4 speed transmissions are not uncommon
on the 2000 and 3000 tractors.
Especially on the earliest ones.
But I don't get this right angle shifter
deal. Ford did offer an auxiliary
transmission like the old Sherman Combos
but those had a separate shifter on the
Left side of the bell housing.
They also offered a 4 speed shuttle
shift on some of the industrial models
built on that platform but I don't think
they could have a pto and the shifter
was on the dash.
A photo of the shifter would help a lot.
Assuming it runs and mows as is I would
say the price is dirt cheap, especially
with the weights and the mower. Those 3
bangers are some great, reliable old
machines.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Mike(NEOhio)
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 May 2013
Posts: 4902
Location: Geauga County, Ohio

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wires from the neutral switch?? So you can't start it in gear.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Ultradog MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 22 Apr 2001
Posts: 24656
Location: Twin Cities

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not so rare, at least in these parts.
And not so unuseable imo. My first 3 cyl Ford was a plain Jane 2000 gasser w/4 speed.
I owned it for about 4 years and did a lot of work with it - plowing, discing, finish mowing, brush hogging - the usual stuff with it.
Yes, 1st gear is very fast and no way would I trade my 8 speed w/live power for one. But I liked the tractor a lot more than the N Series and a 641 I'd had before that. And if given the choice between that 4 speed and an SOS I'd take the... Well I'd better not say that here.
Wink
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Bern
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Apr 1999
Posts: 6769


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You must really hate the SOS with a passion to prefer a 4 speed over it.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Fordfarmer
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 10007
Location: Ladysmith, WI

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You should have read his craigslist ad for the SOS after he pulled it out of his 4200! 😄
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Thelumberwagon
Regular


Joined: 15 Sep 2019
Posts: 25


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote





Here are some pics of the shifter and electrical boot. Is this just a standard 4 speed? I'm only going to use it for mowing.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
JoeM(GA)
Tractor Expert


Joined: 31 Aug 2007
Posts: 1855


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

it's a "C10" so it's a 3000, and you can see the "A" at the far end of the model code A ? 4x1 speed manual,
I bet it was a state or county bid tractor
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Thelumberwagon
Regular


Joined: 15 Sep 2019
Posts: 25


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Just a standard 4 speed...dang...oh well.

As far as I can tell, it needs the starter rebuilt and some new fronts. Then I can really assess it. The guy said it may need brakes too but I can't afford to buy one that doesn't need work. However, I can afford a fixer upper like this. The brush hog is a 5 ft and seems to be in decent order.

I've tried to do some research to determine things I should look for specifically that would steer me away from it. I value the advice from the forum and anything you throw my way is always welcome.

It should be a good mower and maybe something I could use a backboard on shouldn't it?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Fordfarmer
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 10007
Location: Ladysmith, WI

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, 4-speed and the boot is for the
neutral safety switch.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Bern
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Apr 1999
Posts: 6769


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Once you've driven an 8-speed, I don't know how you could tolerate a 4. It would drive me nuts.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Ultradog MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 22 Apr 2001
Posts: 24656
Location: Twin Cities

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bern, The 4 speeds aren't the best transmission but they were simple and reliable.
This guy's plight is just one reason to not want one. If it was a failed clutch on a crash box it is a big job to do the split/replace but new parts are readily available for $150 or so.
To do this job on his SOS is a bigger job with a double split and he's forced to find used parts for a lot more money.
And then there's the issue of their complexity.
Add to that their lack of precision for tight manuvering and their very unpleasant hard shifting I really don't know why anybody would want one.
Mark,
Lol,
I was a little hard in them in that ad wasn't I.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Ultradog MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 22 Apr 2001
Posts: 24656
Location: Twin Cities

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 3000 mystery transmission Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I know I'm in the minority here but
having had 2 of those 4 speeds still say
it will do fine and the price is cheap -
again, if it will run and mow as is or
with just a little work.
No, it's not an 8 speed with live power.
But it is a good, reliable old machine
that will do a lot of useful work yet.
It will always be worth at least what
you paid for it even without the weights
and mower.
Heck, a lot of guys would be happy to
pay that much for an 8N on a package
deal like that. That is much better than
an N.
How about some photos of the rest of the
tractor?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Ford All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
Fast Shipping!  Most of our stocked parts ship within 24 hours (M-Th). We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our fast shipping, low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

YT Home  |  Forums

Modern View Forum powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters