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Bern
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:04 pm    Post subject: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Major advancements on my 6000 project after getting all of the sheet metal painted and the decals applied. I took it to my friend's hay field today and snapped a few pics.

It's not done yet. I still have to get the seat reupholstered and the steering wheel redone, as well as redo pretty much all of the wiring. That will take some time yet, but I couldn't wait to get the hood on and see what it looked like.

I have to say, the looks of the 6000 are growing on me, at least the Commander version. I used to think they were ugly, but I guess I've "evolved".

I've also come to realize that I really like the nearly equal balance of white versus blue paint. Think of a comparable JD tractor of that vintage - it's all green except the wheels and seat.

I promise more close ups after the seat and steering wheel are done. The steering wheel looks hideous right now. Every time I drive it a chunk of it comes off in my hand.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks fantastic!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Very nice Bern
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking good Bern! I have one just like it, but it's a parts tractor now..
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks great Bern though I still think they look like a tractor you might find on the Jetsons - if you remember them.
I kinda think the MFs - 135s, etc look that way too.
A couple of questions:
What kind of paint did you use?
Where did you buy the nice, clean precleaner?
Were the front weights reversible ie, up/down?
What will you use/do to repair the steering wheel?
Is the center hub still intact? Mine is completely gone.
I've been thinking about making a mold of some sort - maybe of clay - and pour a new epoxy center hub. Imbed the wheel into it before I pour. Have been looking at different epoxys but not sure what to use.
I'm sure who ever gets that tractor when you're done with it will get a honey of a machine.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a good looking tractor
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, I watched the Jetsons as a kid, and I would agree with you with regards to the rear console and the way the controls are situated. Looks like something off of a space ship for sure.

As for paint, it all came from NH. Smaller pieces were sprayed with bomb cans (not a cheap way to paint). A friend of mine (the hay farmer whose field I was in) painted the sheet metal for me. He used NH paint out of a quart can, and added a little bit of "wet look" hardener to the mix to give it the shine.

As regards to the paint, if you look real close, you can see that the white paint of the front and rear cast pieces is just a tad bit different shade than the sheet metal. I'm not sure if the difference is attributable to the different surfaces (cast versus steel), or the fact that the paint came from two different sources (quart can versus rattle can). In a perfect world I would have painted everything with a gun from the same one-gallon can of paint.

Pre-cleaner bowl came from the NH dealer. It's one of the few items you can still get from them, and I'm sure it's only because it's the same piece as is used on many different models.

The front weights are not reversible. If you look close, the bottom bolt row spacing is different than the top row spacing. In addition, I did not mount them the way the factory intended. If you look at the factory literature, you can see only two studs poking out of 6 holes of the front weight. This is because they intended for them to be mounted one at a time, which make sense at 130# each. I however did not like the look of the 4 open holes, so I got two long pieces of 3/4" all-thread and threaded them into the front bolster. I then slid all of the weights onto the all-thread and then tightened one of them down tight with a nut. I then replaced each stud one at a time with bolts. I think this looks better, having bolts in all the holes. The upper, outer holes align with brackets that attach to the front nose piece.

The steering wheel is cracked all over the place. I'm toying with the idea of simply sending it out to a guy who restores steering wheels as a hobby, because I'm certainly not equipped to repair it myself, nor do I wish to attempt it. I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet though because it will likely cost upwards of a grand to have him do it. It seems kind of senseless to do that when I can buy a round aftermarket wheel for $50. Problem is, it wouldn't look stock without the Jetsons-inspired, flight deck design OEM wheel, or without the special emblem that goes inside of it (link below). The round part of the wheel is also different in thickness between the top and bottom. It's really different.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I always had a soft spot for the commander 6000 look, and that one sure looks nice! My first tractor was just like that, but the wide front was the set back style. I traded it on a bigger horse a few years later. I found it in a salvage yard 20 years later. Bought it, and brought it home to find the torque limiting spline had stripped. She doesn't look as pretty as yours, but still gets used each summer and will be here as long as I still am caption of this ship. I plowed many a field with it, and a mounted 4/16 plow. With the front tires 8-10 inches in the air from one end of the field to the other. Acre after acre. I pulled a 14 foot Keewanee disk also. No way anyone will ever convince me the select o speed trans was bad. I had the pump turned up and it would blow a 8 inch flame out the exhaust at night. I pulled her guts out each time I turned the key on. I also pulled a two row 780 Allis chopper when filling silo. Those 6000 commanders where a hard pulling tractor. I wonder how things would have played out if the early red 6000 train wreck hadn't happened. The Commanders were good looking and fun to drive. Al
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anyone ever see any numbers on how many 6000s rolled out of Highland park? AL
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's pretty safe to say that the 6000 would have been a lot more popular had it not been for the issues of the original models. It's one thing to have problems in only one area of the machine, like say the transmission. But when they were re-worked at the factory or dealership and went from red to blue, almost everything was gone through and updated!

It surprises me still, to this day, that Ford was so careless with the introduction of the 6000 in 1961, after what happened to the first SOS trans in 1959, and of course the Edsel in 1957. I think management must have had more money than brains back then.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The precleaner bowl is a Donaldson and not specific to Ford or New Holland. There are I believe 3 sizes and the plastic bowls are available from a variety of sources.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think as a whole(company) Ford was used to success stories. If their engineers drew it up it had to be good. They hadn't felt much failure. Still don't understand what took them out of business? Everywhere you look Ford tractors seem to have sold well. I know they were slow to build large frame tractors but they did build a good product. Al
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I always thought they were a great looking tractor. Good job.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

At some point in time, the Ford Tractor Division became the red-headed step child within the Ford Motor Company, and it showed with some of the machines that they came out with, like the TW series - there was clearly some engineering laziness going on there. It's too bad that they didn't give it more support like old Henry did.

Of course, Fiat hasn't done the division any good either in my opinion.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 6000 project, update #6, almost done! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking great!!! If your still interested in a muffler I will try to build you one once the weather turns and I get some time in the shop. Seems like I can t get any kind of tractor projects completed lately. The turkey farm is taking more time than ever and the pay is less!!
 
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