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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Today, I attended the Franklin County, IN antique tractor show which is probably the best such show in my area.

AC was the featured brand, was well represented, and there were not many Fords aside from the, now almost ubiquitous V8 powered 8Ns. FWIW, one such 8N was powered by a 60 HP V8, a very tidy, though even less useable, conversion.

The most well restored Ford that I saw was a late model 3000, as evidenced by its plastic grill. This one was VERY well restored and obviously a trailer queen. It had the 4X2 transmission, PS, and a single (TISCO) remote. Surprisingly, it did not have PA rims, though all 4 tires were new.

This one was a gasser, as were most (all) of the non-prior 4000s that I saw.

I took a close look at the carburetor, expecting to find a Zenith but did not. It was equipped with the OEM Holley, and the Holley looked to be new as did the rest of the tractor, aside from the bead blasted surface. Sadly, the owner was not around while I was there, so I could not speak to him.

I do know that a well established CNH (Ford), but now mostly Kubota, dealer dominates this area and has done so for decades. I also know that this dealer still has at least some of it's long term employees. Could it be that someone nearby knows how to overhaul the Ford tractor Holley carburetor?

Sorry, UD, but I just couldn't resist.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My Ford 335 industrial (3600) still has the Holley Carb.
I rebuilt it once or twice (in 25 yrs.) Runs very well,.
Use it every week mowing.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I, too can rebuild the Holley, Tom, and have done so.

Not everyone has the patience.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No offense taken Dean.
There are some things I'm willing to do. Rebuilding a Holley, learning to overhaul an SOS or restoring an 8N are not some of those things.
I'd rather do something interesting. Maybe reread Tolstoy's War and Peace.
I'd at least feel I had gained something of value when I was done :)
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Interesting that you mention Tolstoy. War and Peace is on my reading list but I've not yet started it.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have owned for 25+ years a 3 cyl 4000 gas tractor . I found that a rebuild kit like TSC or Tisco sells is quite generic and lacks quite a bit of what is needed to do a good rebuid . The kit from a NH dealer that supposedly has everything including parts for the accelerator pump iwas over $100 when I checked 7-8 years ago and not stocked. I opted for a Zenith carb from this website and have been pleased with it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-Dean"](reply to post at 15:39:46 09/27/19) [/quote]

Funny as I get lots of holleys come through and they usually run OK.... But the ones that dont, I find the "power valve" or "accelerator pump" frozen and rusted in place due its position in the lowest part of the bowel. And a little water bubble, well guess where it sits. Trying to free the valve usually ends up breaking it,, so a Chinese knock off is installed.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry, UD. I did not mean to imply that you did not know or could not learn how to overhaul a Holley Fort tractor carburetor.

Just wanted to dig you a bit for your hard line stance.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Agreed, Bill.

I'm a fan of the Holley but the accelerator pump must work properly for the carburetor to perform as intended (as must the vacuum advance). If the pump is badly corroded, and one needs to get things going in short order, the most cost effective solution is replacement with a Zenith.

FWIW, the Holley is quite economical when functioning properly because the accelerator pump/power valve allows tuning the engine leaner in normal operation. The accelerator pump prevents stumble upon tip in with the lean mixture. Without the pump, the engine would need to be tuned more rich for normal operation, resulting in reduced economy.

Yes, there is a price to be paid for the increased sophistication of the Holley as compared to contemporary MS, Zenith, etc., models.

Sure liked that restored late model 3000 that I saw at the show.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You should email me your number.
Be fun to talk about that book - or others.
Or tractors - even if they're Orange.
Mine is always open in classic.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We watched the movie. It was good. John Wayne wasn't in it, though.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-woodbutcher wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:47:06 09/29/19) We watched the movie. It was good. John Wayne wasn't in it, though.

Butch


John Wayne the draft dodger?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

RayJohnson wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:06:14 09/29/19)
CVPost-woodbutcher wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:47:06 09/29/19) We watched the movie. It was good. John Wayne wasn't in it, though.

Butch


John Wayne the draft dodger?
Draft dodger? I guess you don t know much about him. He was 34 when WW2 broke out. Tried to enlist but he couldn t get by the physicals because all of his injuries. Did more for this country then most.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

RayJohnson wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:06:14 09/29/19)
CVPost-woodbutcher wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:47:06 09/29/19) We watched the movie. It was good. John Wayne wasn't in it, though.

Butch


John Wayne the draft dodger?
Draft dodger? I guess you don t know much about him. He was 34 when WW2 broke out. Tried to enlist but he couldn t get by the physicals because all of his injuries. Did more for this country then most.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Restored Ford 3000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Steve Brussell wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:50:46 09/29/19)
RayJohnson wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:06:14 09/29/19)
CVPost-woodbutcher wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:47:06 09/29/19) We watched the movie. It was good. John Wayne wasn't in it, though.

Butch


John Wayne the draft dodger?
Draft dodger? I guess you don t know much about him. He was 34 when WW2 broke out. Tried to enlist but he couldn t get by the physicals because all of his injuries. Did more for this country then most.


https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/john-wayne-the-duke.html
 
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