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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:22 pm    Post subject: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 1971 Ford 4200 Row Crop with a 3 Cylinder gas engine.
The power steering cylinders are mounted under the radiator.
There is a manifold mounted between the 2 cyls. and 2 short lines going to each cyl.. The line is about 6 inches plus the ends makes it 9 1/4 inches long. The problem is that Ford discontinued these
lines. But what's worse is they used some odd fittings.
I have been to the top 3 hydraulic repair places in my area and
nobody can get these fittings to make me a new hose. If anybody
has any info on this and or what options I have I would appreciate
it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check your local New Holland dealer if you have one. New Holland owns the legacy of the Ford Tractor brand in terms of parts. My local New Holland dealer has the ability to make hydraulic hoses and they have some of the oddball fittings that Ford used where no other hydraulic shop in the area has them.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

will be facing this shortly but have not
begun removing those lines.
It looks to me like the fittings going
into the manifold are very similar to a
typical banjo fitting that Ford used on
their remote hydraulic valves so those
may be obtainable.
The fittings that go into the manifold
look like the ones I found on a 4400
steering cylinder and should have an
Oring inside to make the seal. Those
orings were still available from the
dealer.
On anything where parts are no longer
available you (we) may have to get
creative. Perhaps you can cut the hose
crimps off and replace them with a
different style hose and crimp. It may
require you to silver solder a modern
fitting onto the old fitting or even
have a machine shop drill and tap the
orifices to accept an NPT fitting.
This is only an 1100 psi system so
taking some risks is acceptable.
I will be dealing with this at some
point myself and am confident there is a
way even if it requires some thinking
outside of the box.
It may be springtime before I dig into
mine though.
You can email me using the "send email"
at the bottom of this post if you would
like to collaborate on this.


 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sean in PA wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:30:45 10/03/19) Check your local New Holland dealer if you have one. New Holland owns the legacy of the Ford Tractor brand in terms of parts. My local New Holland dealer has the ability to make hydraulic hoses and they have some of the oddball fittings that Ford used where no other hydraulic shop in the area has them.

I have been to three New Holland dealers do all make hoses and I have been to three different Hydraulics shop and nobody has these fittings. I also have talked to two different tractor salvage places and they don't have any hoses and they are checking with their distributors to see if they could mirror this part and so far nobody has been able to
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am in the process of cutting the old hoes out of these fittings and I am either going to try and crimp a new hose on them or braise a steel line to them. It is just unbelievable that nobody has this type of fittings
 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 4200 Row Crop Power Steering Hose's Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey ultradog that picture you posted of the cylinders and the manifold is exactly what I have
 
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