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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:40 am    Post subject: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok gentlemen I'm back this massey 150 is making me crazy I installed power steering on this old tractor, the power steering came off a 165 which is the right one my problem now is the elephant nose on the pitman arm is going to hit my front pump shaft when turned to the left to far anybody know of a adjustment the can prevent this any help will be helpful
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello, I have a 150, one of the very very few in the UK. Having looked at it I believe that I can see your problem. As far as I can see there is no adjustment that will allow you to operate the steering fully. The arms are attached to the shaft via the master spline so cannot be turned. The problem would appear to arise from the fact that the 150 has a trunnion type axle centre beam whereas the standard 165 has a bushed centre-beam. In short, the lower steering arm goes under the centre beam of the 165 (except the row-crop version) and on the 150 the steering arm goes over the top. On the top side of the axle casting the power steering mechanism will be correct with the pedestal etc but its different on the bottom. The answer, not at all sure that there is one. US tractors tend to use front mounted pumps more than we do in the UK so this type of problem seldom arises. Can you re-mount the pump on the PTO shaft?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi, Unfortunately I don't have the part number
Many...many years ago I had the same problem with my MF-65
when installed a front hyd pump.
I asked to the local MF dealer...
they had a pitman arm with different bent to fix this problem.

HTH

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Would it be in the agco book
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks for the reply but im trying to keep the pto clear for bush hog and other implements I believe I can get a different pitman arm to go here if I can find it
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In the MF parts catalog they show a steering modification kit for the 150 with a front mounted pump (using a MF 99 loader).


I'm still looking for the different pitman arm.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is the pitman arm you are using from a 150, the earlier 65 uses a similar arm to the 150, the 165 uses a totally different pitman arm than the 65.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It is what's know as the elephant nose
off the 165
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok gentlemen I think I have found the right number for this stupid tractor's pitman arm the one I've got is a 188550m2 the one I think I need is a 186152m1 anybody have a idea where I might find this creature its got to be a odd ball oh and by the way my front loader is now working like a charm the front pump and new control valve did the trick on that thanks for the info
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

According to the agco MF65 parts book (number does not show up in the 165 parts book). 186152M1 Used Gas And L.P. Tractor Serial Numbers 670012 To 678785. A tractor salvage yard maybe your best bet to find it, or try a dealer. I hope you are able to find it, maybe get a side by side picture of the 2 to see how much different they are.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On the internet I entered ....186152m1 Massey Ferguson... and the below showed up:
I have no idea if the item is available still for sale...

The Item # indicates It's an e-bay Item....


Classic & Vintage Parts Heavy Equipment For Sale
/ item#452857024819232
/ MASSEY FERGUSON 186152M1
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yea its my bad the pump and sector came off of a 65 not a 165 it shows 3 different ones for a 65 one is the same on the 150 the 188550m2 but the reason I think its the 186152m1 because it looks like it sweeps more to the right which would make it clear the pump shaft but I could be wrong I have been wrong many times before
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

looked on e-bay but nothing came up
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

question is that pitman arm cast or is it just steel if its just steel I may have to take it off notch it and weld it back as long as its not cast
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: massey 150 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's probably cast steel/malleable iron.
 
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