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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:55 pm    Post subject: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi guys,so one of the main reasons i bought the old mf203,is to bring water out to the cows.right now we only got a couple cows out in pasture,but by spring we'll be getting a herd in there,which brings up a problem,"water",so i have been using the cih 585 tractor that i use for general things,mower,phd,pullin wagon,but the problem was i kept having to switch back and forth from the 275 tote on wagon,to whatever implement I'm using,so i figured if i used the backhoe it would solve that problem,so do you guys think a decent set of clamp on forks thats rated for around #3000 would be able to handle 275 gal almost every day,i am currently changing all fluids and filter,so i am confident the loader will lift it,but I'm not sure how to keep all that weight where it needs to be.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why don't you just get a $500 N that everybody's belittling and keep it hooked permanently to the tote wagon.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, i thought of that,but i needed/wanted the backhoe for general things,since i dont have a loader tractor,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some things to think about. How far is the travel between points? How rough is the path? Your 275 gallon tote will weigh around 2200 lbs. full. Clamp on forks move the load center out to about 2 feet ahead of your bucket, which in effect increases the load seen by the tractor/loader. How does that compare to your lift capacity? A good bounce and I believe the dynamic loading will exceed the 3000 lbs. fork capacity. Clamp on forks can be hard on bucket lips as well, many buckets have been bent by the forks. The MF bucket may be heavy enough to take it.

It can be done, but I don't know that I would go that way for a daily operation. A set of forks (4000 lb. + capacity) that ride on a heavy steel rod and hang from multiple hooks across the top of the bucket would be a better choice to me, if going that way. Best would be to remove the bucket and have a fork set that pins to the lift arms in place of the bucket.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Fair enough. In my opinion, decent clamp-on forks is an oxymoron. We had them at work for our backhoes and loader and they were one notch above useless. They bought them in 1985 and they were still on the floor in the corner when I stopped by for a visit on Monday. 3,000# on the lip of your bucket is less than ideal (it will probably bend) and they like to move side to side. When you figure the lack of traction with the weight off the front plus the cost of the forks, my N is a better option. Keep the backhoe and use it as intended or make a set of forks that hook on the upper lip of the bucket.

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think you guys are right,I'll go with the hook on forks on top of bucket,I'll just have to cut of the hook thats currently there and weld three new ones,but shouldn't be to bad,i'd rather do the work right than pay the money for doing wrong,so I'll forget about the clamp ons,
Thanks guys,you saved me and my bucket😋,
Rock
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Forgot to mention,distance is short only about 50 yards to one pasture,and about 100 yards to the other,and the terrain is a dirt road,that i am in the proscess of grading,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You have a backhoe. If you can install water lines and freeze proof yard hydrants you won't need to carry the tote around. 100 yards isn't that far. I don't know where you are located but just go a couple deeper than the frost level, put a few layers of Styrofoam over it, in travel areas as well.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim.ME wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:21:59 11/09/19) You have a backhoe. If you can install water lines and freeze proof yard hydrants you won't need to carry the tote around. 100 yards isn't that far. I don't know where you are located but just go a couple deeper than the frost level, put a few layers of Styrofoam over it, in travel areas as well.



Probably the best advice given. Black plastic pipe is cheap.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How many head are you going to have. During the summer if you have more than 10 grown animals you're probably going to have to make more than one trip per day. I would put in the water lines also. Tony
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yup,there will be about ten in there,i would like to run lines,but the way my yard is setup,its the barn/driveway on one side,shop on the other,and fence in the middle,so I'm looking at least tearing down the fence,which i don't really want to do,thats how we got,but i was thinking i could use a cheap farm truck,which i know is just like using a tractir and wagon,but it would be pretty bad manuevering,and its real tight where i have fill it up,so I'm lookin at a 73 f350 stake body with a 460 an 5 speed,what do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

like Tony and others said, put in the water line,, the way you are thinking will work yes,, I have to haul water to one pasture at times what a super pain it is,, and I have a 1000 and 15,000 gallon tankers to do it with,, what will it take cut a opening in the fence and go through,, ten min down and 20 min up maybe at most,, you can also just take the bottom wire down, and work under the fence unless its woven wire,, even if thats true a couple hours work at most and you will have water tot he tank from now on,, you will spend that in a week hauling water maybe even less,, its your work to do so what ever will work best for you I would do,, but take it from those of us who have been doing this thing for 50 decades or more, a little time doing it right the first time saves a whole lot of time later on,,
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Farmer Rock wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:46:19 11/10/19) Yup,there will be about ten in there,i would like to run lines,but the way my yard is setup,its the barn/driveway on one side,shop on the other,and fence in the middle,so I'm looking at least tearing down the fence,which i don't really want to do,thats how we got,but i was thinking i could use a cheap farm truck,which i know is just like using a tractir and wagon,but it would be pretty bad manuevering,and its real tight where i have fill it up,so I'm lookin at a 73 f350 stake body with a 460 an 5 speed,what do you guys think?
Thanks,Rock


You can dig up to the fence on both sides and then just hand dig a short tunnel for the line, or blast it with water if you have a hose that will reach that far. I tunneled under a side walk with a hose for power lines a couple times, easy to do.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Water transport with mf backhoe Reply to specific post Reply with quote

300ft of poly pipe is cheaper than forks! You have a backhoe just trench it in and be done with
 
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