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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:50 am    Post subject: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a midwestern Industries model 100 loader on a Ford Jubilee. I had the cylinders on the front end loader repacked. The cylinders were fully retracted when I got them back, which I needed to extend them a little bit to install them. I figured I would attach each cylinder on the bottom mounting bracket and start the tractor and extend them to what I needed. I moved the controller lever back and forth to get some air out. When I pulled the lever back the left cylinder extended out fairly fast by a few inches then did it again until it was out to far to attach it to the loader. The cylinders are single acting with no valve to release the air. Am I able to retract the rods, or do I need to take them back in to have them retracted? As you can tell, I'm very new to hydraulics.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

moimoi wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:50:08 11/23/19) I have a midwestern Industries model 100 loader on a Ford Jubilee. I had the cylinders on the front end loader repacked. The cylinders were fully retracted when I got them back, which I needed to extend them a little bit to install them. I figured I would attach each cylinder on the bottom mounting bracket and start the tractor and extend them to what I needed. I moved the controller lever back and forth to get some air out. When I pulled the lever back the left cylinder extended out fairly fast by a few inches then did it again until it was out to far to attach it to the loader. The cylinders are single acting with no valve to release the air. Am I able to retract the rods, or do I need to take them back in to have them retracted? As you can tell, I'm very new to hydraulics.
Single acting depends on a gravity load to retract, so you need to apply some force, in one way or another. Weoghts, come-along, whatever.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you JMOR. I'll see what I can do to get it back in, and if not take it back in to have them do it. Is there a trick to installing them back on the loader? The rod typically extends out about 8 inches when installed. I wasn't expecting it to come out that fast.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

don't know tricks, just need lined up to pin. Slow & easy.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Try jacking the loader up until the eyes line up and install pin.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would try to wrap the cylinder end to end with a ratchet strap and cinch it down while someone holds the valve lever in the down position, or bungee the lever "down" if by yourself. Do it with the engine off just in case your helper pushes the valve the wrong way.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was sort of thinking the same thing and tried getting the other cylinder attached, since that one wasn't out as far. I figured if I could get the other one attached I could raise the loader to get the other one attached. It did the same thing as the first one and it shot out too fast and is now out too far. Both are out to a point that I can't raise the loader high enough. When I get the rods back in I'm going to keep them a little longer then the mounting holes and try what you suggest.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Cylinders won't retract Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The ratcheting is a good idea. One end is a pin eye and the other is a tang, which I should be able to go through the holes. Going to wait until tomorrow to try this, since it started sleeting and raining.
 
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