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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Got off early today.. sized up everything and don't have the right tools ( not big enough vise OR big enough pipe wrench ) to rebuild the lift cyl.

Thought it might be a bear to get off.. but i was pleasently surprised. The retaining bolt on the top pin came off with a couple wrenches and pb oil.. bottom keeper bolt did the same with a socket and 6" extension and wrench. Both pins tapped out easilly with a little pb and 2# hammer and brass drift for top pin. Bottom pin had the zerk int he center.. I found that that 6" ratched extension with a socket ont he end worked perfectly.

Drained cyl as much as possible ( man that's alotta oil! ), and have it in the back of the truck to haul to work with me in the AM. I hope to run it by a hyds place at lunch...

Any chances that the packing this uses will be 'on the shelf' items? I wouldn't mind geting this cyl back by friday afternoon as I have some uses for that tractor that need a dirt bucket. I considered putting the repair off.. but it trickles pretty good under load.. and i don't need an oil pasture..

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can't say for your area (FL?) but I was surprised here in OH when we took one of our Freeman cyl in for same thing, to an industrial/commercial hyd-only shop. Something like a 2-day turnaround and I didn't even ask them to push it. Cost was ~$125 but they also worked over the cyl rod, too. Was money well spent. Good luck, hope yours comes back in time.

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Soundguy,
I havent had time to read the foruns here lately.
I didn't know yours was leaking...
When I rehabbed mine a couple of years ago I brought it to M&H - a specialty hyd shop here in the Twin Cities.
It must have been a slow morning because when I asked when I could pick it up again they told me if I went out for coffee and came back in an hour I could have it then.
I did and it had new seals and had been pressure tested when I got back.
Obviously it uses off the shelf seals.
It cost me a C note.



 

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I left home early this am and took the cyl to a sop in the next city.. I know the guys there.. have known them for 15 ys on and off. We kicke dthe dirt for a few minutes.. they hadn't seen an old one like that in a while. but were -very- familiar with the design..As i lef the shop.. the owner alread had the cyl 'walking' back to a table.. I take this as a good sign.

Only got to work a tad bit late...

Soundguy

 

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I knida suspect the same will happen here.. since they already had it on a table by 8:15 am.

The owner told me he had been in these many times.. and as long as the snap ring groove was good.. it shouldn't be a problem

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I just got a call from the HYDS shop while I was typing this...

CYL is -already- done.. took 1hr 45m.. nice..

Soundguy

 

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just picked it up after lunch.. 76$ and some change.

Sounds good for me.. they said the packing was well worn.. and the wipe was deffinately on the way out.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: update on 711 lift cyl Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just came in as it was starting to rain outside. Got home from work around 5pm.. got the cyl over to the tractor.. pulle dthe pins and hit them with 600 paper to clean up.. then washed with MS.. greased them up and attached bottom pin in cyl.. hooke dupt he hose.. and then let the hyds extend it for me to hook up the top pin.. plus less to bleed doing it that way. Got the keepers in the pins and did a half dozen lift drop cycles and also added about 1.5g of oil back to the sump. Finally got it all bleed out and working good. Narry a drop from the new seals. Repacker said the cyl looked 'great' inside.. I'm glad.. I'm sure there aren't any spare parts for these running around..

Rerouted 1 hyd line while I had it down, to make it lay closer to the tranny...

All in all I'm pretty happy with that old 850. For some reason I've not had the gumption to refurbish this one much past 'worker' grade. I've corrected all the mechanical defects I've found so far,, but not much else in the restoration dept. I feel kinda bad sometimes. She don't even have a tachometer... but then.. I pretty much never have a pto load.. so I don't feel real keen on buyinbg a tach and cable for a tractor with a permanent concrete chunk on the 3pt.. and a loader on the front.. maybee someday I'll get her dressed up a little bit better..

As ugly as she is.. ironically.. she is one of my better running gassers. The 660 is probably in same good condition, as well as my allis G.

Soundguy

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