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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

B vs C Allis. I worked for a farmer who had a C Allis with a 4 spd transmission. Tractor was definitely a C not a CA. Tractor was bought new and farmer was not the kind to do such a modification.
Everything I read says the C was a 3 spd. I drove it hauling chopper racks back and forth and it had a good road gear. My Dad had a B and 3rd wasn't very fast. This C was much faster. It had the 4spd shift pattern cast on the transmission. Is it possible that a 4spd option was available on the C perhaps for the later ones from the factory? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've never seen a C with a 4 speed and I have been around a good many of them. But who knows what may have been done to it at some point in time. Like maybe the transmission was damaged and replaced with one form a CA that had blown engine at a dealer
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think it's possible to swap the tranny. You'd have to have swapped the final drives too to keep the 5 bolt rear rims. As far as I know no C ever left the factory with a 4 speed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would guess the original trans failed and the CA 4 speed was installed. Could have been done at the dealer... Did not come with 4 spd from the factory.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks to all who replied. The farmer who bought the C new and his son for whom I worked have both passed so can't confirm what actually happened. It did have the 5 bolt wheels.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good chance then it is a mutt made from a C and a CA
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What does the serial no. say? Stamped by the shift lever on a C, probably a CA too. If it was a C with a 4 sp it would probably say C on the serial no. If no serial no.
it is might be a replacement transmission new from AC.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: B vs C Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks. I have no idea where the tractor is now. I drove it in Wisconsin as a kid in 1961.
 
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