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Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering parts?


 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:38 am    Post subject: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering par Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My front distributer 8n went from "weak brakes" to "no brakes" over the last 1/2 year or so, and I plan on getting them into working shape again. I have a copy of the Steiner Tractor video about Ford brakes. I know ideally, it would be best to pull the tires and see what's good and what's bad and then order necessary parts, but I would rather have the common parts on hand when I pull the tires so that I can try and get the job done rather than waiting for parts delivery. Right now I have a shopping cart on Dennis Carpenter with new brake shoes, a brake repair kit (all the springs, etc...) for each tire, and a couple of rear axle housing oil seals. Before I place the order, is there anything else that I'm missing and should order now (specific gaskets, etc..) that could slow down the process once I start to dig in?

Also, other than the video I mentioned, does anyone have any other good resources (YouTube videos, websites, etc...) that are especially helpful for someone who hasn't done any brake work before? Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would recommend getting the parts catalogue. If you are going after the seals and doing all that work you might as well order all parts indicated on the exploded view in the catalogue.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ridgeandvalley wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:38:06 06/30/20) My front distributer 8n went from "weak brakes" to "no brakes" over the last 1/2 year or so, and I plan on getting them into working shape again. I have a copy of the Steiner Tractor video about Ford brakes. I know ideally, it would be best to pull the tires and see what's good and what's bad and then order necessary parts, but I would rather have the common parts on hand when I pull the tires so that I can try and get the job done rather than waiting for parts delivery. Right now I have a shopping cart on Dennis Carpenter with new brake shoes, a brake repair kit (all the springs, etc...) for each tire, and a couple of rear axle housing oil seals. Before I place the order, is there anything else that I'm missing and should order now (specific gaskets, etc..) that could slow down the process once I start to dig in?

Also, other than the video I mentioned, does anyone have any other good resources (YouTube videos, websites, etc...) that are especially helpful for someone who hasn't done any brake work before? Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
Best wishes....8Ns used two different outer seal styles and some used an inner seal and some didn't. Nothing is ever simple.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Don't hold me to this I have had both outer seals for a 8N they were the same seal just a different part #...

You can use either seal in the old retainer are get the seal and retainer as a unit...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Front mount distributor "most likely" has only the outer seals.
That "assumes" the engine hasn't been changed, etc.
I too would order all the parts required to save time and doing it
twice, but it always seems like I miss something anyways.

Here's a great tutorial on doing the brakes and rear axle seals from John Smith.
It includes part numbers, instructions and things to look out for in the process.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Royse wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:20:18 06/30/20) Front mount distributor "most likely" has only the outer seals.
That "assumes" the engine hasn't been changed, etc.
I too would order all the parts required to save time and doing it
twice, but it always seems like I miss something anyways.

Here's a great tutorial on doing the brakes and rear axle seals from John Smith.
It includes part numbers, instructions and things to look out for in the process.
Link
I you just can't wait, simply buy both types of outer seals and the inner seal, use what you need and toss the remainder. Simple, eh?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:07:23 07/01/20)
Royse wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:20:18 06/30/20) Front mount distributor "most likely" has only the outer seals.
That "assumes" the engine hasn't been changed, etc.
I too would order all the parts required to save time and doing it
twice, but it always seems like I miss something anyways.

Here's a great tutorial on doing the brakes and rear axle seals from John Smith.
It includes part numbers, instructions and things to look out for in the process.
Link
I you just can't wait, simply buy both types of outer seals and the inner seal, use what you need and toss the remainder. Simple, eh?

I have a box full of extra new parts from ordering that way.
The seals are relatively cheap compared to paying shipping twice. :)
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Royse wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:19:13 07/01/20)
JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:07:23 07/01/20)
Royse wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:20:18 06/30/20) Front mount distributor "most likely" has only the outer seals.
That "assumes" the engine hasn't been changed, etc.
I too would order all the parts required to save time and doing it
twice, but it always seems like I miss something anyways.

Here's a great tutorial on doing the brakes and rear axle seals from John Smith.
It includes part numbers, instructions and things to look out for in the process.
Link
I you just can't wait, simply buy both types of outer seals and the inner seal, use what you need and toss the remainder. Simple, eh?

I have a box full of extra new parts from ordering that way.
The seals are relatively cheap compared to paying shipping twice. :)

That would get him every thing he needed unless the hubs are worn out it took two new ones to get mine to stop.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Going to try a 8n brake job. Advice before ordering Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I just got caught up pulled both outer seals they will interchange the difference is the lip of the seal they both measure out the same...

Up to serial #486752 is a double lip seal the later a single lip seal... Are just order a seal with the retainer they all fit...
 
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