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Roger in Iowa
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:56 pm    Post subject: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is there any way to determine if a submersible pump that has been unused for sometime and down in a well, is 120V or 240V without pulling it?

Only thing we can try is to hook it up to a 120v generator and see if it might work.

Ideas?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, not without seeing the nameplate.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is there anything left of the wiring that it was hooked up to? Some of them require a capacitor box above ground.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You will probably ruin it. Better pull it because it would only take a few seconds to burn it up If it doesn't start. If it has two wires, it is 120 volts. If it doesn't start when you touch the wires with voltage, add some capacitance and try again. If it starts but doesn't run easy, add or subtract capacitance till it sounds good.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree with Russ, could also be missing a starting box, no way to tell without pulling.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't know where you are or what the circumstance, but where did the pump previously get power, an outbuilding shed garage. Check the breaker box for evidence of the pump. may give you an answer. I know you said you were going to try a generator, was it always run by a generator???? a simple minded guy like me looks for simple answers. gobble
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks all for the comments. No electrical boxes, etc for many years. Haven't seen pit so maybe something there. No power at location.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Rogeriniowa wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:07:22 07/13/20) Thanks all for the comments. No electrical boxes, etc for many years. Haven't seen pit so maybe something there. No power at location.


It depends on how deep your well is. My well is 120 feet deep and has a 240 volt pump down there. It all depends on how much power is need to get the water to the surface.

Do you know how deep the well is?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

99 percent are 240 volt. If it has 3 wires coming out of the well it could be a 2 wire with a ground wire or a 3 wire that needs a control box. Those wires are red black and yellow if wired up correct. If it has 2 wires it is what we call a two wire pump and needs no control box to run. You can check the wires with an Ohm meter. A two wire motor will read something like 4 to 8 ohms on two wires and nothing on the ground, if it has one. A three wire will read 4 to 8 on the run windings, yellow and black, and something like 12 to 18 on the red start winding. That is red to yellow and red to black to check the start winding.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Roger in Iowa wrote:


States typically have some sort of water well registry.

If you contact yours they may have records that will lead to the well driller that drilled it, or did major work on it (depending on the reporting rules in your state and if they were followed).

If you get lucky and the contractor is still in business he should have a record of details of the well including the make and model of pump that was last installed.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote


How many wires , what colour and how many are insulated ?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Walk over to the breaker box and take a look. 👀
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Do you know why the well was abandon? If you plan to drink the water it may be worth getting the water tested sooner rather than later. To get an accurate test, it may be necessary to pump out the well for a while to draw fresh water into it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mule Meat wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:22:36 07/14/20) Walk over to the breaker box and take a look. 👀


Mule meat, go back and read the thread :roll:
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: submersible pump in a well Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:10:25 07/14/20)
Mule Meat wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:22:36 07/14/20) Walk over to the breaker box and take a look. 👀


Mule meat, go back and read the thread :roll:


I did read it and he ask for ideas.

1. It operates using electric.
2. It would have to have been wired from some source such as a breaker box, plug, cutoff switch etc somewhere. House, pump house, barn somewhere.
3. It is a good bet that somewhere between the power meter and pump. A breaker was used.

Idea??? Look for a breaker box.
 
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