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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:27 am    Post subject: Tractor won’t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello all,
I’ve been getting pretty frustrated because my Ford 2n tractor won’t
even turnover. I took the starter out and tried jumping the
starter with it out and the starter comes to life. When I put it
back in, I turned the key, and it turned for a second and won’t
turn now..... Is it a bad starter? Something wrong with the
grounding of the starter when it’s in? Help please
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won’t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check battery for full charge.

Other possible issue - gas got left on and drained into cylinders causing hydrolock. Pull spark plug and try to turn it over.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won’t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it’s hydrolocked would I be able to turn the engine over by hand? I can turn the engine by pulling the belt.
The battery is also fully charged, it’s reading 12.7 volts.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jdawg88,The start switch could be bad at the bottom of the steering column in the front . To test it You might try and jump the two terminals out of gear in NEUTRAL! with a old screwdriver and see if it starts or turns the engine over.No starter run,starter is bad if the battery is fully charged .
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bought this tractor about 9 years ago and someone had
converted the tractor to 12 volt and by-passed the push start
with an ignition switch that has a start on it.
I took the starter out and to hold it together I put nuts on the bolts, then I used jumper cables To see if it would work. It did quite well. I put it back in the tractor and now I’m trying to jump the starter in place but I don’t even get a spark. Battery is charged, been checking it with a voltmeter. I put the jumper cables directly to the starter and not even a spark.... maybe I’ll pull it back out and try it again?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jdawg88,The armatute could have a dead spot and could be bad,just happened to stop on that spot,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Battery Voltage is a little low if fully charged. You might try jumper cables to make sure you have enough to turn it over and that the voltage isn't dropping like a rock when you hit the starter. Taking the plugs out is a good idea until you get it turning over easily...
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think that you are right. I pulled it out again and tried jumping
the starter again and it wouldn’t run. I do think it’s a bad
starter after all.... I was hoping that it would be something
cheaper.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The battery voltage is actually around 12.78 and it doesn’t
really drop when jumping the tractor because it’s practically
brand new. But I think it’s the starter after all! Thanks for the
help!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Tractor won’t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why wouldn't you remove the starter motor and simply motor test it? (2-1/2% of all non-starting issues are electrical and due to mucked up wiring. I'd say start with testing the battery at a shop. While power disconnected verify the wiring is all correct. Is the system OEM 6V or did you switch out to 12V? Is the OEM Ballast Resistor in the circuit regardless if 6V or 12V - it is required for both. You can start with Essential Manuals. Parts, Service, and Owner Manuals are required tools. Once YOU know what you are dealing with, tell us more.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won’t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

OK problem is elsewhere. Can you jump the starter motor (tractor in neutral?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor won t even turn over Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Jdawg88 wrote:
(quoted from post at 13:39:28 08/05/20) I bought this tractor about 9 years ago and someone had
converted the tractor to 12 volt and by-passed the push start
with an ignition switch that has a start on it.
I took the starter out and to hold it together I put nuts on the bolts, then I used jumper cables To see if it would work. It did quite well. I put it back in the tractor and now I m trying to jump the starter in place but I don t even get a spark. Battery is charged, been checking it with a voltmeter. I put the jumper cables directly to the starter and not even a spark.... maybe I ll pull it back out and try it again?



maybe the solenoid isn't working? is it a 4 terminal or a 3 terminal solenoid? the 3 terminal solenoids, the starter switch goes to ground, but most automotive ignition keys, the starter switch goes to +12V. with a 4-terminal, you can wire it either way... either +12V -> solenoid side terminal, other solenoid side terminal -> switch -> ground, OR, +12V -> starter switch -> solenoid side terminal 1, other side terminal to ground.
 
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