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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:14 pm    Post subject: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I found a 212 with mower and the plow which I was looking for---See earlier 214 post. lady said it needs carb work! She said it only runs for a short time and dies.
After looking at ads for carbs, some are super cheap and others over $200.00 Rebuild kits are available also, Anyone have any past history good or bad,with these Kohler engine carbs? Recommendations? Also, without seeing it yet it may be just clogged gas line or something simple. Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Runs for a short time and dies....several variables there. Lady says it needs carb work? Could be as simple as just a carburetor cleaning or badly cracked fuel lines or it might not even be carb related. Could be a bad condenser or dirty points. Does it have a mechanical fuel lift pump on the engine? That could be weak or sucking air too. How well does it run for the short time? That could tell a lot about it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All of your suggestions are possibilities. Last year for those tractors was 1987.
Bad fuel line usually doesn't let one start.
Sellers frequently guess "needs carb work" when something doesn't run very well
or very long and they have no idea what is really wrong.
Those tractors have a mechanical fuel pump that can be troublesome.
Carb rebuild kits are readily available.
A badly worn carb will suck air and run lean where the choke or throttle pivot goes through the body of the carb.
Isavetractors has a website where you can buy a replacement carb that will fit and run well.
Points should be cleaned and set at .020 initially, and the condensor should be replaced.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you replace the condenser DO NOT throw away the replaced one until you are sure you have a good one. The replacements are bad out of the box quite often.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If the tractor didn't have proper maintenance, it's possible that the valve stems are gunked up and stick when the engine gets warm.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good morning, jd52ao: I have a Deere 212 that gave me trouble about 2 years ago when engine was hot on hot days. I tried several things, (methodically), it seemed carburetor was my guilty party. I hated to do it, but I bought a carb from Amazon for about $20.00. It seemed to fix my problem. If you get one of these off-brand units, you may have to rig up some throttle linkage parts, which is what I did. Sometimes this old stuff does not seem to be worth the effort, but the Deere did well all this summer (2020), so good for me!

Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kolher carbs are expensive. I priced them for an Allis Chalmers garden tractor. They were all at $200. I found an aftermarket one on ebay for $16.99 from China. I ordered one and put it on. It worked fine. Later I ordered a China carb for a tiller. Gas ran stright through that one. I guess you take your chances with the cheap replacements.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-jd52ao wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:14:09 12/26/20) I found a 212 with mower and the plow which I was looking for---See earlier 214 post. lady said it needs carb work! She said it only runs for a short time and dies.
After looking at ads for carbs, some are super cheap and others over $200.00 Rebuild kits are available also, Anyone have any past history good or bad,with these Kohler engine carbs? Recommendations? Also, without seeing it yet it may be just clogged gas line or something simple. Thanks
I've bought 3 of the cheap, Chinese carbs. Two for k181's and one for a k241. You might have to tinker with the linkage a little even though they were ordered for the application. Think I paid about $12 to $14 for each of them. I think some retailers are buying the exact same ones and marking them up. There doesn't appear to be any difference between a $12 one and a $24 one.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some people seem to have good luck with that cheap Chinese junk but I didn't. Last spring I decided to treat my old JD 110 to a new carb. and fuel pump. The old pump leaked a little oil past the pin through the rocker arm and the carb. seeped a little gas when it set for a month or so. Other than that it ran perfect.

The new carb. was big enough to shove a cat through the venturi, must of been for a 16 horse eng. and I ordered the more expensive one to get the new linkage piece on top because my old one was worn out on both ends. The new one was drilled wrong and wouldn't stay on the ball at all. The Ebay seller didn't want it back so I ended up keeping the new carb. and got 9 bucks back.
The new fuel pump broke the inside end off the rocker arm after about forty five minutes of run time, seller sent me another one with the same result in a half hour run time. Got my money back on that.











Made my own fuel pump, black/red out of two old ones and found enough parts and gaskets in my junk drawer to rebuild my carb.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks you for all the comments/suggestions. Hope to go look at it next weekend. To much snow and cold this weekend. Just wondering what i may be getting into-- There is always a lot of info and opinions on here Thanks all---Will advise what I found.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I doubt that you need a new carb, probably just a fuel delivery problem, or possibly a condenser as someone suggested. Troubleshoot first, before buying any parts.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: John deere 212 Carb Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Before you fall in love with it, check the rear hubs.
Good used ones are out there, but you have to shop around.
 
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