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Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:54 am    Post subject: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just finishing a rebuild. Bought a pair of rear wheel hub
adapters part number NCA 1223 A 1. Wheel studs too short.
Do I replace those with 1/2 longer or buy the FDS 118
extensions?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For a dually setup you need the wheel stud extenders, p/n 8N-1142 and the spacer, p/n 8N-1156. Introduced with the 8N and used for all models thereafter, note the 8-Bolt Hole Pattern so they will not work on a 9N or 2N. The Stud Extenders are also used on the rear wheel Pie Weights. Finding some often requires a search. A guy on the other site used to make them but no longer into tractors and sold all of his stuff.


FORD 8N (& UP) REAR WHEEL SPACERS & STUD EXTENDERS:



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks Tim. So what I have is for what exactly?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Who knows without a photo.

That said, many folks mistake the wheel spacers introduced in 55 for use with PA rims for dual wheel adapters. Indeed, they are often marketed as such by unknowing or unscrupulous sellers.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does this look like what you have? This is a Ford wheel spacer for use with the power adjust rims used with the X00 and X01 series Ford tractors.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mitchford, Yes that’s what I have. Will have to look at a machinist I guess to have them made up. Btw the rebuild went well. Thanks to all who have helped now and in the past
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-retpopo wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:53:00 01/12/21) Will have to look at a machinist I guess to have them made up.


Here is a starting point - instant online quote from a reasonably priced company that I have used in the past:

One pair CNC laser cut from 1" plate: $245 per pair plus shipping.
Ten pair CNC laser cut from 1" plate: $129 per pair plus shipping

I have a local shop that would probably beat that 10 pair price by a substantial amount. I doubt they would consider doing one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I have had simple plaate spacers like those processed by ALRO steel supply. They have in house water jet cutting service.
Might check with your local steel supply house.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, what you have is extensions for the power adjusted rims. They are not dual wheel adapters. Holes were counter sunk and IMO had just enough treads to hold the lug nut on. Adding a center disc under it and as you found out bolt are too short. I suppose you could replace all the bolts on your hubs with longer bolts. It would have to have same tread so lug nut would fit in counter sunk holes. You could than mount your rims and adjust the rim on the center disc in or out and hopefully they don't hit or are too wide apart that you can pick up rocks between them.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All that money and you still have to buy the adapter lug nuts. Might be cheaper to use aluminum plates in stead of steel.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Kirk-NJ wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:31:14 01/13/21) All that money and you still have to buy the adapter lug nuts. Might be cheaper to use aluminum plates in stead of steel.


I think you will find aluminum is more expensive. Lug nuts another $100. Plus a grand for tires, rims, and centers. Big wheelin' is not a low budget sport.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think the dual wheel spacer ring is at least 1.25" thick. I will have to measure mine.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my ‘51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Depending on how far away from Michigan you are, I may be interested in the power adjust spacers you have.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yep tires, rims, center EZ grand if they're firestones


 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Dual set-up for my 51 8n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Michford wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:37:13 01/13/21) I think the dual wheel spacer ring is at least 1.25" thick. I will have to measure mine.


If you don't mind check the diameter of the holes for the lug adapters while you are at it. I may pursue this idea when I get a chance. I was thinking 8 longer replacement studs might be cheaper than using the M/F adapters.

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