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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:03 pm    Post subject: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got a case 222 runs great but starts hard especially cold. Has brand new points condenser and coil. Is there anything I can do to help make it start easy. Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cold they take lots of choke,if we're talking 10 to 23 deg cold, then I suggest a shot of starting fluid. It is easier on the starter and the battery,and if everything is ok they tend to pop right off.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's a Kohler........Choke the crap out of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've got a Gravely with the 12 hp Kohler engine. It had always started very quickly if used fairly regularly. A couple of years ago it became a very slow starter. I found that the problem was a loose fitting on the outlet side of the fuel pump. Apparently this allowed the fuel line (at least the section between the fuel pump and carb) to "drain", and it took quite a lot of cranking for the fuel pump to push more gasoline to the carb. I've also heard that some Kohler fuel pumps seem to get weaker after thirty to fifty years.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Id check your valve clearance, if it spins slow. the compression release is on the cam and might be out of adjustment.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My Wheel Horse C-141 (Kohler K321) was also very slow to start. Like mentioned above, the fuel pump was allowing fuel to drain back. I'm not familiar with your tractor, but on this tractor, the fuel tank is a loooonng way from the motor. New fuel pump, pops right off.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Full choke, open throttle a bit start cranking and then throw the throttle to idle she should fire in a few cranks as long as it has not like said drained the carb bowl either forma leak, pump,line or carb bowl, or it has been sitting a week or more,,
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

the point set is very important to the timing..I had one that would start very hard..excessive cranking..it ended up being the points were to closed..it starts as it should now..I save tractors has a nice piece on you tube to cover it..
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Burnttoast wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:00:02 12/29/20) the point set is very important to the timing..I had one that would start very hard..excessive cranking..it ended up being the points were to closed..it starts as it should now..I save tractors has a nice piece on you tube to cover it..


On those old Kohlers the spark timing was set by slightly tweaking the point gap while using a timing light.

To keep spark knock at a minimum or prevent low power, wasting fuel and overheating it's important to set the points using a timing light.

For complete details, the official Kohler manual can be viewed, downloaded, and even printed for FREE.


http://resources.kohler.com/power/kohler/enginesUS/pdf/tp_2379.pdf
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Can't download it. Not sure why. I'll try again, maybe just a glitch on my end.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Make sure the battery is at 12+ volts. When cranking in the cold the voltage tends to drop and messes with the spark. You can test this theory by putting jumper cables on the battery and try cranking with the boost from your car. If she starts right up you know the low system voltage is to blame.

Been there, done that. FYI low voltage will fire on ether, but better to correctly diagnose and get to the bottom of it rather than turning to engine drugs.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Case starts hard Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Dakota W. wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:03:34 12/09/20) I got a case 222 runs great but starts hard especially cold. Has brand new points condenser and coil. Is there anything I can do to help make it start easy. Thanks.


Have you been to this site? There's a section that has manuals you can download for free. Or you can ask for help on the Kohler engine page.

https://casecoltingersoll.com/forum.php
 
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