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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:11 pm    Post subject: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

how would you get a 4500 ford backhoe tractor that wont start and can't move the backhoe or loader off the ground out of the woods down a steep hill and on a trailer to tow it ? thanks Larry
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:11:01 01/23/21) how would you get a 4500 ford backhoe tractor that wont start and can't move the backhoe or loader off the ground out of the woods down a steep hill and on a trailer to tow it ? thanks Larry


Use another piece of equipment (loader, dozer, skidder, etc.) to lift the attachments that are on the ground. Hold the control valve lever in the proper direction of movement while the attachment is being lifted to allow oil to move to/from the cylinders. You maybe able to help it by cranking the engine some to add oil into the cylinder, while lifting, with the control valve held in the lift position. Chains, blocking or other methods of securement may be needed to hold the attachments elevated. Once the attachments are raised it will be a matter of towing it, provided there are not issues (either design or mechanical failure) with the driveline that prohibit towing. A steep hill might need a second machine to hold back on a hill. The towing and hold back machines should be at least as large/heavy as the 4500. Be extremely careful of keeping people out of the "line of fire" in case a chain, cable, or strap were to break.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote



I have used a good sized excavator to load large tractors. It is quick and easy. Other wise it is with a lot of chain and or strap running through the front of the trailer with it jackknifed.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

With great difficulty. I suggest chaining
the loader and backhoe up after you get
them lifted and using another vehicle to
tow.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have also used a hydraulic jack to get the implements up using Jim's procedure on the hydraulic controls---a bit slower than another machine lifting but good in a pinch
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Depends on how it is set up. I have used com-a-longs etc. to lift loader buckets so I could then town the machine where I needed to. Also using a piece of angle iron placed between the end on the cylinder and the frame work well to hold things up once you have then in the air. Tape or tie the angle iron in place so as to be doubly sure it stay put
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-old wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:55:31 01/25/21) Depends on how it is set up. I have used com-a-longs etc. to lift loader buckets so I could then town the machine where I needed to. Also using a piece of angle iron placed between the end on the cylinder and the frame work well to hold things up once you have then in the air. Tape or tie the angle iron in place so as to be doubly sure it stay put


Old, that would work on the loader but the back hoe and stabilizer cylinders are extended when they are down, not up, so the angle stock would hold the tractor up so that it would not roll.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Most backhoe when parked the stabilizers are park in the up position as well as the backhoe. So we can only guess as to how this one was parked. May also have chain hooks welded to them so as to make it easy to make sure the boom stays up when parked. I've used enough of them to understand them well but I did operate heavy equipment at times for a living
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="larry zielkowski"](quoted from post at 04:11:01 01/24/21) how would you get a 4500 ford backhoe tractor that wont start and can't move the backhoe or loader off the ground out of the woods down a steep hill and on a trailer to tow it ? thanks Larry[/quote



thanks everyone for the great ideas if I end up buying this machine and moving it I will let you know how it turned out
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="larry zielkowski"](quoted from post at 00:22:09 01/26/21)
larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:11:01 01/24/21) how would you get a 4500 ford backhoe tractor that wont start and can't move the backhoe or loader off the ground out of the woods down a steep hill and on a trailer to tow it ? thanks Larry[/quote



thanks everyone for the great ideas if I end up buying this machine and moving it I will let you know how it turned out


When the dead vehicle has zero brakes I have towed with a chain inside a 20 foot length of 4" steel pipe.
the paint will get chewed up on both vehicles some. But not too bad as long as the chain is just a bit longer than the pipe.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="DoubleO7"](quoted from post at 17:46:44 01/29/21)
larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:22:09 01/26/21)
larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:11:01 01/24/21) how would you get a 4500 ford backhoe tractor that wont start and can't move the backhoe or loader off the ground out of the woods down a steep hill and on a trailer to tow it ? thanks Larry[/quote



thanks everyone for the great ideas if I end up buying this machine and moving it I will let you know how it turned out


When the dead vehicle has zero brakes I have towed with a chain inside a 20 foot length of 4" steel pipe.
the paint will get chewed up on both vehicles some. But not too bad as long as the chain is just a bit longer than the pipe.


great idea thanks i might need to use that pipe idea soon
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: towing disabled ford 4500 backhoe tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Larry, the pipe thing is okay on mapped roads as the hills are gradual.
But you mentioned a steep hill offroad.
A pipe could end up as a vaulting pole.

So if that hill is steep, see if you can let roll down the hill by itself before using the tow pipe.
 
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