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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

zmanvortex wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:04:36 05/14/21)
TheOldHokie wrote:
Holy Over Engineering Batman!!!

I was expecting a simple mitre gear drive not a spiral bevel with pressure lube!!! That is going to be hard (not impossible) to fix and it wont be cheap.

TOH


TOH, I would be fine with just installing a front mount distributor. Do you agree that would work fine? Is there a particular model I should buy for, or are most of the front mounts the same for 8N, 9N, 2N?


Should bolt right up - be careful the drive tang is off center so it only goes on one way without breaking something. All the same, plentiful, and cheap.

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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

zmanvortex wrote:
I am working on my neighbors Ford tractor and from what I can tell it is an 8N.


The tractor appears to be a 2N judging by the pictures.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:03:03 05/14/21) yes, and I will go out on a limb and make a WAG that this is the one he has:
This one looks simple to what he has. Not a magneto drive at all. learn something everyday!
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From what I can see in your photos, it is not an 8n at all. Probably a mutt!
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maybe this gear?
I see where it is pinned to the shaft.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks TOH. You mean the slot is wider on one end versus the other. Will keep keep an eye on that. Thanks.

Louis A, help me out. What do you see in the pictures that suggest 2N? I am going to attach some pictures of cast markings from the axle that may suggest 2n.

R Geiger, what is a mutt
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From what I can see in your photos, it is not an 8n at all. Probably a mutt!




Thanks for all the help guys! Cheers!
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cleaned up the hand stamped serial number on the block real good. Not prefixed by *N. Here is the pic.

 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

R Geiger wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:24:45 05/14/21)
JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:03:03 05/14/21) yes, and I will go out on a limb and make a WAG that this is the one he has:
This one looks simple to what he has. Not a magneto drive at all. learn something everyday!
No!!! NOT a magneto drive! Made to accept a standard side mount distributor. I thought I made myself clear, but I guess not for every reader.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't know if I should be proud or embarrassed with this repair on the same tractor. Neighbor left straight water in the tractor through the winter and cracked the block. I cleaned it up and JB welded it. It is holding water just fine. I find it amusing that all of the cracks were right around the frost plugs which didn't do their job Smile

 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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Louis A, help me out. What do you see in the pictures that suggest 2N? I am going to attach some pictures of cast markings from the axle that may suggest 2n.


What makes me think that it's is 2N is:

3 speed transmission that was used on 9N and 2N

Steering box and dash is the style used on 9N and 2N

Running boards are either aftermarket or homemade that hang on the factory foot pegs that 9Ns and 2Ns used. 8Ns had factory running boards that mounted different.

Brake pedals are the style used on 9N and 2N (Right brake pedal on the right side of the tractor and left brake pedal on the left side of the tractor beside the clutch pedal) The 8N has both brake pedals on the right side of the tractor and just the clutch on the left side.

Oval radius rods that Ford started using on the 2N in 1944

The casting mark that you show on the axle trumpet has the casting date above it that reads 1-13-47 which would put it in the years of 2N production. I would say that the tractor is most likely a 1947 Ford 2N. I hope this info helps.

This post was edited by Louis A on 05/26/2021 at 07:36 am.

 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-deanostoybox wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:22:32 05/14/21) Maybe <a href=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-8N_Distributor-Drive-Gear_7RA6255.html>this gear</a>?
I see where it is pinned to the shaft.


Both the drive gear and the distributor gear are ruined. Probably better if I can get the front mount distributor.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Louis A wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:06:05 05/14/21)
zmanvortex wrote:
Louis A, help me out. What do you see in the pictures that suggest 2N? I am going to attach some pictures of cast markings from the axle that may suggest 2n.


What makes me think that it's is 2N is:

3 speed transmission that was used on 9N and 2N

Steering box and dash is the style used on 9N and 2N

Running boards are either aftermarket or homemade that hang on the factory foot pegs that 9Ns and 2Ns used. 8Ns had factory running boards that mounted different.

Brake pedals are the style used on 9N and 2N (Right brake pedal on the right side of the tractor and left brake pedal on the left side of the tractor beside the clutch pedal) The 8N has both brake pedals on the right side of the tractor and just the clutch on the left side.

Oval radius rods that Ford started using on the 2N in 1944

The casting mark that you show on the axle trumpet has the casting date above it that reads 1-13-47 which would put it in the years of 2N production. I would say that the tractor is most likely and 1947 Ford 2N. I hope this info helps.


Absolutely helps! Thanks! It is in fact a 3 speed plus reverse.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

zmanvortex wrote:
Absolutely helps! Thanks! It is in fact a 3 speed plus reverse.


You're welcome! Yeah, the 8N had a 4 speed plus reverse.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:58:37 05/14/21)
R Geiger wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:24:45 05/14/21)
JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:03:03 05/14/21) yes, and I will go out on a limb and make a WAG that this is the one he has:
This one looks simple to what he has. Not a magneto drive at all. learn something everyday!
No!!! NOT a magneto drive! Made to accept a standard side mount distributor. I thought I made myself clear, but I guess not for every reader.
Sorry, I was just saying that what you showed and what he has is NOT a magneto drive, and that I have never seen an adapter like those.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 8N? Angle Drive Distributor Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I wonder what the tag on the distributor says? Looks like a Delco or possibly an Autolite tag.

Delco made conversion distributors for many engines/tractors that were sold as aftermarket accessories/updates.

Autolite probably did, as well.
 
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