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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:52 am    Post subject: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a large power steering leak on my 445A Ford skip loader. Anybody have a favorite forum for the newer Fords?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Off Road SHO wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:52:20 04/12/20) I have a large power steering leak on my 445A Ford skip loader. Anybody have a favorite forum for the newer Fords?

Tom


Tom; Go to the horses mouth .........NH Parts lists:

https://partstore.agriculture.newholland.com/us/parts-search.html#epc::model_find

Type in your tractor by #, and look through till you find what you are looking for.
I just looked your tractor up, and NH Gave me a total breakdown of that model!!
Then go to your tractor manual, to see what you have to do to fix your problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not sure what a "skip loader" is, but the only Ford 445A that I can find referenced is a tractor/loader made from 1985-1988. If that is what you have, it used a hydraulic steering system that has a lot of places where it could leak, so if you give us some more details on exactly where it is leaking we might be able to help you here.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


A skip loader has a front end loader and a box scraper (Gannon) on the back. This is similar to a Case 480 or 580. The oil is coming out of the bottom middle of the front axle housing.

I do have the manual and the New Holland printout for the exact page. It shows the two hydraulic lines coming from the steering box, going through a double hole rubber grommet and into the axle housing.

Inside the axle housing (that is near impossible to get into) those lines each go to an upside down "T" fitting that is mounted to a plate which in turn is bolted to the bottom of the axle housing. each "T" has two hydraulic lines, one goes to the front side of the left cylinder and the other goes to the back side of the right cylinder. The hydraulic lines from the other "T" does the opposite.

We "think" the hydraulic lines inside the axle housing have become loose on the T fittings or split open. The problem is we can't remove or lower that plate that the "T" fittings are bolted to. We've removed the two nuts that we thought held the plate to the bottom of the axle housing, but the plate doesn't even become loose.

This tractor is 3 1/2 hours away at a homestead that is off the grid and internet access is limited.

When I get up there tomorrow, I will double-nut the studs and remove them completely, thinking maybe the plate has been tapped also. We'll see. Bottom line, I have to get in there or get access to those fittings so I can remove the hoses and go get new hoses made or bought.

Whew!

Any knowledge is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I believe the 445 is about the same
tractor as my friend Kenny's 545.
From your description the hydrostatic
steering is the same.
He had a leak in that same area and had
trouble figuring out why/where it was
leaking under there. I did not get
involved in it but he told me about it.
I do remember he was able to fix his by
using a thin, soft, copper washer on the
flare fittings which were damaged or worn
- something like that.
Sorry I'm not more help.
If you wanted to email me I could put you
in touch with him and he could probably
help you. He'll be 84 or 85 and still
pretty sharp but hard of hearing even
with hearing aids. So be patient with
him.
Skip loader is maybe a regional term.
Around here it's just called an
industrial tractor/loader.
My email should be open in classic view.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Update:

Was not able to get the plate that holds the two "t's" to the underside of the bolster(?) off. The two bolts come out ( I originally thought they were studs with nuts) but the plate only come down about 1/2", not enough to see the connections.

I did find a sorta loose hose clamp under the hydraulic tank, but I'm not leaking hydraulic fluid to any great extent, only power steering fluid. I really need to get this tractor back to my shop so I can remove all the crud that has built up over the years. The lower half of the radiator is absolutely crammed full of oil and dust.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Off Road SHO wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:29:26 04/30/20) Update:

Was not able to get the plate that holds the two "t's" to the underside of the bolster(?) off. The two bolts come out ( I originally thought they were studs with nuts) but the plate only come down about 1/2", not enough to see the connections.

I did find a sorta loose hose clamp under the hydraulic tank, but I'm not leaking hydraulic fluid to any great extent, only power steering fluid. I really need to get this tractor back to my shop so I can remove all the crud that has built up over the years. The lower half of the radiator is absolutely crammed full of oil and dust.

Tom


Well....

I was able to remove the grill, hydraulic reservoir, oil cooler, air filter and radiator. Now I can see the tops of the hydraulic PS tubes, buried in 30 years of leaking oil and dirt/dust. Didn't have any way to clean out all the crud away from the tubes to be able to see whats leaking, but I am this far into it now that I just ordered two new tubes (ouch). I will take a pressure washer back up with me to clean it all out.

Is there a trick to getting those tubes in and out of that rubber isolation grommet?

Too Many Tractors Tom
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Any advice on which Forum for newer 445A Ford? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Off Road SHO wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:50:17 07/03/20)
Off Road SHO wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:29:26 04/30/20) Update:

Was not able to get the plate that holds the two "t's" to the underside of the bolster(?) off. The two bolts come out ( I originally thought they were studs with nuts) but the plate only come down about 1/2", not enough to see the connections.

I did find a sorta loose hose clamp under the hydraulic tank, but I'm not leaking hydraulic fluid to any great extent, only power steering fluid. I really need to get this tractor back to my shop so I can remove all the crud that has built up over the years. The lower half of the radiator is absolutely crammed full of oil and dust.

Tom


Well....

I was able to remove the grill, hydraulic reservoir, oil cooler, air filter and radiator. Now I can see the tops of the hydraulic PS tubes, buried in 30 years of leaking oil and dirt/dust. Didn't have any way to clean out all the crud away from the tubes to be able to see whats leaking, but I am this far into it now that I just ordered two new tubes (ouch). I will take a pressure washer back up with me to clean it all out.

Is there a trick to getting those tubes in and out of that rubber isolation grommet?

Too Many Tractors Tom


Well...

It's been a year off from this project due to chemo and radiation treatments, but I finally got the tractor back to my shop where I have air, electricity and TOOLS!

It's a good thing I didn't try and tackle this job up in the boondocks. Got the old steering tubes off and wouldn't you know it, the new tubes are way too short!

According to the NH site and Messick's, they should be the right parts but they are not even close. I sure hope my dealer will take back the incorrect parts after this long.

I did find what I think is the cause of the leak in one of the tubes. It looks like a corrosion pit at the bend right before the brazed on fitting.

Thanks for all the help guys.


More as it happens.

Tom
 
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