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riverbend Tractor Expert
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:00 am Post subject: Front half of an H |
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What does the front half of an H weigh ?
I have most of the parts in hand and I'm thinking about splitting my H to do the transmission and clutch. Last time I used a neighbor's engine hoist and it worked fine. Now I'm wondering how close it is to the load limit.
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shaun wallace Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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H does not have to be split to replace clutch and front trans seals. There is plenty of room to do all from the bottom. |
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Charlie M Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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If you are splitting the tractor to do the clutch I would recommend changing the rear oil seal while you are that far into it. That requires removing the oil pan also. |
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rustred Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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it takes very little to hold up the front and roll it away, a 1 ton hoist is good. |
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redforlife Tractor Expert
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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Unless you plan to take out the flywheel, and/or replace the rear engine main seal, you don't need to split the tractor. The clutch and pressure plate can come out the hydraulic pump hole once the pump is taken out and lowered out of its place. I'd do it that way, instead of splitting. Be easier too. Probably got to take the hydraulic pump out anyways, to get it apart and back together (I'm guessing), even if you split it. |
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riverbend Tractor Expert
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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I have to take the countershaft out of the transmission to replace 3rd gear (chipped tooth). Oil is starting to leak out from under the brake covers. I'm guessing the bull pinion bearings are going bad again. Bearings and seals all around and the clutch will slip once in a while... Working underneath it to do all that is harder than it used to be.
Using a hoist and rolling the front half away makes it a lot easier. |
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rustred Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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that is a for sure. i would split it also, as a split dont even take an hr. then your on your feet in wide open spaces. |
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BarnyardEngineering Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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Bare naked weight of an H is around 4000lbs. You'd be lifting less than half of it, and it would for sure be "bare naked."
If you're going to be using the front wheels to support some weight, you're probably looking at only about 1000lbs, at most. |
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Dave41A Long Time User
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Front half of an H |
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It's up to you, but it will be about as much work below the tractor to split it as it will be to disconnect the countershaft bearing with the tractor un-split. I replaced the front countershaft bearing last summer and once the lift-all is dropped, the amount of work you're doing on your back is minimal. Splitting the tractor doesn't make this work go away, so it really is a wash in terms of on-your-back work. In short, splitting adds a pretty big task to the project with little if anything to gain. But others may disagree. Good luck, Dave |
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