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dbernie
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Greetings,

I am fairly new to tractors, I won't try to hide it, either Smile

I have a serious question--

Do tractors have Titles, Certificates of Origin, or any legal deed to certify ownership similar to cars, trucks, and motorcycles?

Is a hand written Bill of Sale enough?

Do they only have them after a certain year?

It may vary by state--I'm in Illinois, how does your state handle it?

Illinois does require Title for vehicles on the road, but maybe off-road (equipment/tractors) don't need it.

Thanks for any input--
I know its kind of late (for me, anyway),
but I'm hoping for some kind of answers tonight
(if anybody is still up)

Take care,
Dan
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No titles or papers issued by the guberment of any kind for tractors YET, that I know of in the USA. A bill of sale is a good idea as it proves ownership but its not required by the goverment.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Like yer name.

Round here, when it comes to tractors, possession pretty well covers it. I imagine a bill of sale would be nice, but proof of ownership isnt necessary in any way I can think of - though some form of receipt (anything on paper) should be sufficient to settle any disputes. If your checkbook makes carbon copies like mine, that should be enough if you indicate "tractor" on the memo line.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My B diddnt come with one, i shook the guys hand, then the next day he delivered it, then i paid him for it. Thats all there is to it. Here. Some people are different id assume, i guess it just depends on the seller
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Billof sale should be enough. purchase several tractor on a handshake
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Depends on where you are....
Around here tractors have required a licence plate since long before my time, and as such require a certificate of ownership, the same as any motor vehicle on the road. One runs into a major hassle when they buy a used machine without papers here, either one that never had papers in this province or one from out of province that never required (or had) papers.
Personally I like the fact that a licence is required for tractors here and it's also one method of tracking down stolen tractors...
The plate is a one time fee here and is a nominal amount.

Rod
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In Missouri there is no title on a tractor.. bill of sale is always good to keep. With the tractor numbers on it. ...Just in case someone did take it. You would have the ID numbers to show.
Heck down the road one could get stopped with a stolen tactor on a trailer and the ID. You kept would show it is yours.
Bought my tractor on a hand shake to. Oh forgot! Also with a big smile from me. Really liked the tractor and price. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wow that was fast Smile

Thank you, gentlemen.

Didn't even cross my mind,
'til I was gettin' things ready to go in the morning

I just never know what the government is going to be into, good or bad.

Yes, more paperwork, I suppose, could help with theft prevention--
but so could being allowed to shoot thieves on sight--
probably work better once we got 'em all Smile

Well, I hope this tractor doesn't need anything too major, tomorrow.
I think its what I'm needing--I'll go look--AC 190 w/ a loader.

Thanks again,
Dan
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In Louisiana no title or bill of sale. All tractors I buy or sell I make up a bill of sale for the buyer and seller. Just recently I sold a tractor and had the bills of sale for me and buyer. When loading the tractor the buyer had an accident loading the tractor. He swerved on the shoulder of the highway and a passing car hit him. The bill of sale was worth gold when the state police arrived.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No tractor titles neccessary here either far as I know.

On a related subject, kinda O/T though...I looked at a '70 Ford Torino GT on ebay tonight from I think Alabama(or one of the surrounding states)...the guy who wrote the ad said there was no title with the car since their state didn't require a title on a vehicle until '74. Said he'd supply a bill of sale and that's it....is this right??? No titles for cars down there untill '74? Caint hardly believe it!
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I wouldn't touch a tractor without a bill of sale which includes all the relevant serial numbers etc.It's your proof of ownership.
A Doberman in the same paddock is added insurance.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rod: Your age is telling, your obviously a bit younger than I. Proir to 1970 or there abouts the Nova Scotia registration was an annual event, $2.00 for each tractor as I recall. Often times we'd forget to renew them, and even if we did, forget to display it on the tractor until sometime around May. I got stopped once in Feb., failure to display was the charge. Cop told me it would be a maximum $25. fine plus court costs, and if I wanted to fight it I'd have to appear in provincial court. If guilty I could appear before a local Justice of the Peace, who just turned out being a local farmer. I called him immediately, course he didn't have the particulars, however he thanked me as his sons were spreading manure, ( two tractors, two spreaders. He said quickly, "I got to go, he left your place, just went by here, one spreader in field, other at the barn, I'll call you back." When he called back that evening, he advised he made it in time got validation stickers on both tractors before the cop came back. He didn't have a lot of time as cop only had 5 miles to county line.

That call turned out being my fine, he had the choice of not handing out a fine. Court costs were his own pocket money anyhow. He advised me to drop ticket off and he's process it.

It was shortly after that tractors changed to NO EXPIRY. Government were loosing money on the $2.00 annual registration, wanted to up it to $10.00. The NSFA went after and got the no expiry, we wanted them to do away with the plate and use a sticker much like a snowmobile. Couldn't get it through their skulls, that there is no provission on most tractors for a licence plate. I guess someone had good government contract for manufacture of steel plates.

Your right about the registration, I liked it, you have a title saying that tractor is yours. It certainly has discouraged tractor theft. Sorted out just who owned tractor in case of an accident. I still have the NS registration and plates for my SA and 130, most folks in ON don't quite know what to make of them. I had a OPP cruiser pass me one day, I expect he is still scratching his head how a Super A got that far from home. I discussed with an organizer one day about taking my tractor to a show. He said, "Leave the plate on, let the folks know how large a draw our show really is."
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When I was a kid growing up in Northern Calif. Some cities would license bicycles just another way to get your money and help a little company make money stamping out miniature plates.

I hope we never see tractor registration down here you guys up north keep them things home.

Walt
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's always a good idea to get a bill of sale in case there is a dispute, and if Uncle Sam audits you you need to have a bill of sale for equipment you are depreciating.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Tractor Title? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hugh,

I'll be 30 in a couple months... so i really only remember the last few of the old plates kicking around the garage that never got fired away. Seems to me that the change was somewhere around 1980?
Funny story you tell about not having the plate on the tractor either. One of the local clowns stopped me about 2 weeks ago. He demanded to know 'where my sign was'. I asked him, "What sign?".... He didn't like that.... 'The sign for the back of your tractor!!'
I says, it's home... been there since a couple years when the seat was changed, and the bracket for the sign went with it... (along with the seat belt, but I didn't point that out to him). He spit and sputtered and wanted the sign put right back on, and so on, and I could be charged for not having it, blah blah. So I says I'll put it back on... Then he wants to know where the PLATE is?? "Well.... it's with the sign" He was less than impressed. Then he wanted my licence, looked at it, and was off...
I still didn't find his damn sign, and probably won't.
Just a bloody desk sargeant, out in a ghost car, killing time on a nice day, and half an hour out of his area... so I doubt I'll see him again. Crime must have been firmly under control that day....

Rod
 
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