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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I want to build 3pt wood splitter and use the 630 hydraulics for the ram. Has anyone ever done this before?
Does the pump have enough guts to push through the hard stuff like crotches and knots? What am I looking at as far as cycle speed? Would I be better off using an auxiliary/PTO driven pump?

Anyone have a 24" cylinder for sale?
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I made one to go on the three point of my 800. Must have ben 20 years ago. I built it to sit on the ground to split the big stuff and could raise it up to split the littler stuff. On the big trunks you had to work from out side in, I couldn't split then in the middle to make them small enought to handle right away. I just used tractor hyd's, did not have extra valve on splitter so had to have 2 people to run it, witch was alright for safty. I don't rember what the cycle tine was on it. I just went to TSC and bought a 24 X 4" cylinder. On the one I made now (self containd) I used cylinders from a junk garbage truck. I made it to tipe up and down with a hyd cylinder. Be safe DJ
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dad had a pto pump one run off of his 300. that way the valve was right there at his fingertips.
It should be possible with a large enough diameter cylinder though but larger = more cycle time.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Shaun, I bought an SC/DC hitch lift cylinder. I think its about a 3" piston. I read somewhere our 630s' remotes put out about 1500 psi so that will be in excess of 10,000 lbs force, that"s harder than I can whack at it with a wedge and 12 lb sledge. Hope to get started on this this summer and be ready for fall wood cutting. I will let you know. Cycle time may be a problem, guess I will see.

Jim
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dunno how many here who've ever made this connection, but as a hillbilly who's split more danged wood than I care to have, I'll add this. Always split from the bottom of the tree. It's not hard to tell at a glance which direction a block of wood grew in. If it's knot-free, it's gonna split easy anyhoo. Back in the day, I could work a logsplitter to death...'course I'm paying for it now!...~{:^)
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hmm, I don"t know if 1500 psi is going to cut it(or spilt it pardon the pun HA). I used a buddy’s splitter last year with a 2-stage 3000 psi pump and it had a hard time pushing through some of the Knarled up stuff, that is what I need the splitter for. I can split the easy stuff by hand if it"s dry and frozen, couple of good whacks with a splitting maul and it comes apart pretty quick. Plus it makes me feel like I am earning all that free heat. LOL
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, I never thought of that, but it makes sense.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What do you guys think about this? Since PTO pumps are so dang expensive, I wonder if a person could make one using a 2-stage pump off of Ebay? Couldn't you gear it with a chain and sprocket off the pto?
I saw a new 2-stage pump sell for 90 bucks yesterday and a PTO pump is around 400 or 500 bucks.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Crazy:

Dad built a 3 pt splitter about 30 years ago (wow - its really been that long!) that we ran off our 430. At first we used the valve on the tractor to move the cylinder, eventually he put a remote valve back on the splitter. The 430 ran it fine for about 90% of the blocks. We"d get some pieces with big knots that it wouldn"t have the power to split, but not many. I think the cycle time was OK - time enough to clear the pieces and grab the next chunk of wood. I"d give it a try before spending the bucks for a separate pump.

I sold the 430 a few years after he died, but I still have the splitter and use it every year on about 5 full cord with my IH 2424. I think the IH runs it better than the Case - it is an industrial model and probably has a heavier pump.

Good luck!~

Tim
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 630 wood splitter???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I run a spliter off my 630 hydraulics and it works fine. It has a 3" cylinder. When I first started (about 12 years ago) it was a bit slow but as I get older it seems to have sped up a bit and matches my speed now.
 
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