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Alan Golden
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Next weekend I'm going to look at what the current owners think is an 830. It has been sitting on their place for years and does not currently run. They don't know anything about it, or even for sure if it is an 830. What are the pros and cons of this model? I typically go for the Flambeau series. This would be my first "newer" tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is nothing bad about a 830 POWER HOSS
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is nothing bad about a 830 POWER HOSS
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Comfort King or Eagle Hitch??? gas or diesel??? COM or dual range??? You probably won't know till you see it. Take your camera and shoot lots of pictures. Also could be an 801 or 811
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a Case 830 CK. It has been a great tractor for me. It has always started very well and it has power to burn. Will be interested to hear what you find out. My is a gaser.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have no idea what I"ll be looking at since the property owners don"t have a clue. I may get there and find it is one of those infidel brands instead of a good ole American Case. I do plan on taking my digital camera and getting lots of photos.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Alan

I see Desert Sunset in your future. Sounds like a great opportunity to "upgrade" to one of those "newer" machines. Two tone is a great thing.

A 1969 830 Comfort King diesel with a dry clutch might just be the perfect tractor. A great trade off between power, reliability, and versatility. The only negative I can think of is the power steering pump is belt driven instead of direct drive. Well OK...the brakes weren't the greatest. Oh and it's not a good idea to grind feed (or do any other stationary pto work) with the Hi-Low range selector in gear rather than in neutral. Things can lock up tighter than new shoes....
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Really, did not know that about stationary pto work, is that just an 830 thing??? We had an old 930 on the mill, silage blower and corn drier and never had any problems. The blower and the drier REALLY worked the guts out of that poor ole 9.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Really, did not know that about stationary pto work, is that just an 830 thing??? We had an old 930 on the mill, silage blower and corn drier and never had any problems. The blower and the drier REALLY worked the guts out of that poor ole 9.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Funny, we pounded the 1030 on the blower for years and never had any problems either, worked good for mixing feed too.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's been too long for me to remember what happen inside the transmission, but when it seized, it squealed the belts on an Owatonna grinder mixer. I was a teenager at the time and prone to walking around in a teenage fog of oblivion. I remember thinking "what the heck did I do wrong this time". In the end, I was clear of wrong-doing when we were told by the head mechanic at the local dealer what happened. Up to that point none of us realized stationary PTO work should be done in neutral. Needless to say that is the way it was done thereafter.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You have your information backwards. The shifter should be left IN gear when running the PTO. The gears need to be turning to carry the oil up to lubricate the PTO shaft. It is basicly the same transmission as the 8 speed in the 70 series and it is stated in the owners manual to make sure you leave the range shifter IN gear while doing stationary PTO work. If it had to be in neutral how would you use the PTO in the field? If your range shifter seized up it was most likely from running with the oil to low. That is the first thing to go. DK
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hmmm. Maybe my memory is not a good as I thought. My recollection is that the explanation seemed odd at the time because we were told it was not an issue when the tractor was in motion, but when stationary this was a known problem.

It would have also been odd to put the range selector in Neutral as a normal course of action to grind feed prior to the incident. When doing chores (like grinding feed) it would have been normal after start-up to put the range shifter in High and leave it there...using 5th, 6th or 7th gear & high reverse around the barnyard. In other words it would not have been normal to use the range shifter, so it would have logically been left "in-gear" until the lock-up incident. I do remember distinctly that all stationary PTO operations after that date resulted in range selector being moved... I thought it was moved to neutral.

No doubt there are others here with a better understanding of the issue. My memories from 35 years ago are certainly not that reliable.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 830 pros and cons Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If that's the case why didn't the 400/700/800 seize up then? They had the same transmission, had no range shifter and had to be in neutral to do stationary PTO work.
 
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