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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:25 am    Post subject: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is there a certain series of D-17 that came with power steering? I owned a series 1 and that didn't have it. Are there any common problems with the D-17 that i need to watch out for? I am looking for a tractor with power steering and live power to do just a few acres of hay. I need to operate a 7 foot haybine and a baler.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Apparently P.S. was optional on all the D-17s except for maybe the Series IV tractors. Having said that, my neighbor has a series I D-17 and I have a series II and they both have P.S.. As a mater of fact, I have never seen one that was not P.S.
I have a WD and a couple of WD-45s none of which has P.S. and believe me, the D-17"s P.S. makes it a pleasure to drive. The placement of the seat ahead of the rear wheels makes a much more comfortable riding tractor as well.
I don"t have any problems with my D-17 but, from what I understand, there are two areas that need to be looked for when buying one. One is whether or not the power director clutch pops out of high range which can be a matter of adjustment or, if the engagement/release mechanism is worn, requires splitting of the tractor. Two, a leaking hydralic ram which I understand can force hydraulic oil into the transmission.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a series II without power steering. I find that it steers easily when used in fields and even in the woods but I am young (43) and work on a farm. Maybe when I am older I will wish I had power steering. Is this hard to add on?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I run a D-17 that has power steering that I think is a series 2 but not 100% sure on that. I use it to pull a square baler but I do not really like the way A/C has its live PTO set up. It works but it is not the best set up I have used plus the hyds. are not live unless you call shifting the high.low into neutral
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello? If you can stop wheel motion and keep the pto and hyd operating, it is LIVE. INDEPENDENT is different. Various companies accomplished that in different ways...result was the same. Series II was sn 32001-41540.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Definately a better set-up than the 2 stage clutch that Ford had and I think Massey Ferguson had also. Not many tractors their size could keep up with them on PTO power.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Absolutely. In my youth, in the 60's, I spent my summers driving a WD45 pulling a 214W baler with guys on the wagon behind. The ease of the hand clutch is what allowed me to do that. As a kid I could even shift the trans.with it. There are people on here who claim you can't/shouldn't do that.
The bad part(that I was totally ignorant of and unable to do anything about), is that someone of the group should have traded up to a D17 as more speeds would have been very helpful at times.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Power steering was an option on all of them. The D17 is one of the best tractors A-C ever put their name on. Just make sure the power director snaps in both high and low.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ya the WD and WD45 you can shift gears and use the hand clutch but on the D-17 you can not do that. I use the D-17 for baling with because it has a good bit more comfort riding on it then the WD45 has but prefer the hand clutch on the WD45 over that of the D-17. Ya I have both tractors and I have been raking hay with the WD45
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ah but beside an Oliver hands down the Oliver wins big time and if I didn't use my Oliver 77 to run the NH460 moco I would sue it for the baler but the Oliver 77 work the MOCO so well it stays on that duty
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ah but the set up on the D-17 has that creep problem so it does make it acword (sp) for some things. You need to remember I run so many tractors that I wish there was a wat of taking all the good form them all and building one real good tractor. It is just one of those things I do not like the way Aillis's live PTO and Hyds work
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A common problem to watch out for is 3rd gear slipping out but some people will tell you that is factory. But the D-17 will pull that haybine and that baler with no trouble, i did everything with mine, (a series IV) ground corn, ran a 7 foot disc mower, square baled all day. The pto on allis's is fantastic.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That"s interesting, Old! I have never had much luck shifting either my WD or WD-45 with the hand clutch.
On the other hand, I found while bushhogging this summer with my newly acquired D-17 I could easily shift from 1st, 2nd, or 3rd to reverese and back with no problem.
Seems to make the job go faster in tight places.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers D-17 ??? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My make a difference as to what series D-17 you have. I never have had a problem shifting gears on either the WD or WD45 I have with the hand clutch but on the D-17 I can not shift gears
 
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