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Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for?


 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not real familiar with AC and I am looking at a 1973 190XT diesel. Hours are unknown, but it looks to be in real good shape. Has a cab and AC loader. I know to watch for the 2nd or 3rd gears popping out. Is there anything else to watch for? Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

POWER DIRECTOR! I'm dealing with that on a 180. I did not know what to look for.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check the oil and make sure it is not half diesel the roosa master pump are known to when the shaft seal goes bad to fill the oil pan with fuel and that turn can cause the engine to lock up
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Charles,
How should I check the power director? I heard guys say to try to get them to slip in 3rd gear by using the brakes. Anything else?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How are you making out with that? It appears you got some conflicting advice.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

verify serial number and year.
If applicable, make sure 2 speed pto works properly and there are no signs of both bolt circles bolted at once!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

also in general, be leery of fresh paint, and lookout for little obvious but out of sight details that an excited buyer will miss. Any cobbling is a good indicator that it wasn't taken care of or repaired properly.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm with Karl please verify serial number. The last XT190 was made in 1971. The non XT 190's were built until 1973. Other than what the guys have mentioned check for stress cracks in the front wheel support weldment. As much as I love the underrated Series III 190XT's they are not a good candidate for loaders. No sychronizers in the trans and my biggest complaint is they are to heavy in the front end.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any gear other than high, but especially slower ones, low and high range, stand on the brakes, see if it slips. Early ones (1967?) had rear end issues, and had factory updates available, not all were done, but the Series III should all have the heavy finals.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at a 190XT, what should I watch for? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob, I have been out of town Red fishing in South Louisiana. I plan to take the valves off and check them out. I still feel like something is by-passing for my pressures to be below 100 psi.

I have had conflicting comments on the PD, but have enough hydraulic experience that I think I can figure it out. When I do, I will either post answers or have more questions. 8)

JJL, put it in 3rd or 4th and stand on the brakes. If it keeps going stop. Keep it in high, let out the clutch while standing on the brakes. It should stall the tractor down or out. Mine will just set there like a forklift or backhoe with a torque converter trans and will take off when you let off the brakes.

Good luck,

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