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Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves.


 
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Bruce Nelson
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had 4 sleeves on a fresh overhaul crack. The top 1/4" of the sleeve came right off. The tractor ran great as it warmed up to 180 degrees. I retorqued the head to 114 and before I knew it, I had coolant boiling out of the radiator. After checking the thermostat, coolant flow etc. I took off the head and found the cracks. Block is straight and counterbores measure 2.050-2.0515 deep. The head gasket seems to seal near the ID of the sleeve and not on the part of the sleeve supported by the block counterbors. Anybody had this happen to them?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I really meant to call it a SUPER 77
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Now every one knows I worked on an Oliver.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Improper installation (not frozen when inst. or bore not cleaned up good enough)
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wet sleeves, dropped in the holes before the o-rings went on.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm worried about you...
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

what's wrong with that? Olivers earned their keep on our farm and a 77 is way more tractor than a dc in almost every category
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bruce Nelson wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:44:22 12/09/11) Now every one knows I worked on an Oliver.


All insults aside, I bet from what you said that the head gasket is wrong for the tractor. the gasket not sitting out over the counterbore is a recipe for broken sleeves. The way you describe would push the sleeves down and fracture the area at the block counterbore. Double check to see if there are different gaskets for that engine, maybe between the 77 and Super 77. Just my thoughts. mEl
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

uhhm, ok, if you say so dboll
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: I thought I was on the Oliver site Reply to specific post Reply with quote

we have and have had both for 50 years, a 77 has a nice 6 speed trans., good brakes, nice steering and would pull 3-14 in clay loam, a nice live pto and was handy for everything, planting ,dragging, haying, feeder wagon, hauling silage ect. the dc is cheaper on gas and has better hydraulics but is inferior in the handling, gear selection and general usuability areas, both have a good trans/rear end and generally reliable engines, thanks for listening, you can now put your head back into the sand.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Duper 77 Diesel Cracked sleeves. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Do you have a overbore kit with a standard bore gasket just as Mel asked.Go to the oliver forum and ask for J.Schwiebert,he has lots of knowledge on these old girls.Lol Scott
 
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