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The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today.


 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I found whats wrong with the hand clutch on my new purchase today. As you can see with the photos, there is a bushing and the collar has problems. I located the part numbers (70223160 Assy and 70223161 Collar, and 70223399 bushing X2) that I will need. I called my local AGCO parts dealer, who stated they were too busy to look up prices and availability and the parts manager needed to call me back. After 3 hours, no call so I called again, I was told they were too busy at the counter for phone calls. This dealership is 25 miles away and I'm not at all impressed. Looks like I'll be calling another dealer in the morning to see if they are interested in selling parts. The dealer is Harmony Outdoor in Auburn IN.


 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't see any oil in there, and it looks awfully rusty... Did you drain it out to work on it or was it run dry?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a bad experience twice at Harmony.

You might try 747-3455 and ask for Roger. I've bought Allis parts from him before. He's near the Ft. Wayne airport.

I saw your Farmall post on facebook. So you mix orange and red. DickL is from Edon OH he might be able to help you out.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This is exactly as I opened it up. The previous owner stated that he replaced a metal disk, reassembled and it drove 15 feet. I'm sure it was run dry.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Try Truelove Brothers in Albion IN.888-536-0477 ask for Mark at the counter, they have great service and tons of WD and WD45 stuff.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Message sent via website. Thanks for that info. Albion is not far from where I work as a part timer. I didn't realize they were an AGCO dealer. I literally stumbled on this deal. Its the first orange tractor I have put my hands on, but willing to get it back to its original glory.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks burned as well as dry.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave, when you split the tractor, and you are going to have to to do any maintenance on the hand clutch, get a piece of 3/4" threaded rod some nuts for it. Take the top bolts out of the frame rails and thread the rod into the holes. This help keep the front and rear halves pretty close to lined up and will keep the back end from tipping. The I&T manual will illustrate this and makes putting it back together much easier. BTDT.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Since you are new to orange, I will offer that you are not the first to experience this, and that you are into a fair job there. To replace those parts you will split, or at least stretch the tractor. Even if available, those parts are fairly pricey, so you may want to look for used.

The oil typically leaks out of the seal around the PTO shaft, so there may be work to do down there, with both seals and bearings. The transmission and rear end also share the same oil reservoir, so both may have been run very low and/or left only with mud in both chambers. You may want to check all these out before replacing parts one area at a time.

This huge reservoir holds 4.5 gallons and can lead to multiple problems when run dry. Decades ago, many of these tractors were retired when problems occurred with the "wet" clutch.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave, try sandy lake equipment, western PA. THey know old allis, and might have used parts.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

DiyDave wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:43:58 04/17/12) Dave, try sandy lake equipment, western PA. THey know old allis, and might have used parts.


But IIRC they are no longer an AGCO dealer.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:09:57 04/17/12)
DiyDave wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:43:58 04/17/12) Dave, try sandy lake equipment, western PA. THey know old allis, and might have used parts.


But IIRC they are no longer an AGCO dealer.



They took their AGCO sign down last week. One of the parts people claimed earlier in the spring that they still have parts access. Maybe through one of their many short lines.
 


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: The WD clutch and my experience with AGCO today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave, I agree that Truelove's is a good place to try to get Allis parts. I had a problem with my 45 when I got it that the hand clutch did not disengage. I found that there is a big snap ring, somewhere in the area of that through out bushing. When you are at Truelove's have Mark show you where it is located. If you need one they should have them.
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