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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

throttle handle on dash was stuck so i put some spray where i thought it would loosen it up. started to move so i forced it. snapped the little ball off the connector that connects the throttle rod to the spring bar to the govenor. does anyone know if that little ball unscrews and where i can get a new one. and or the entire connector that slips on the rod?? thanks. sorry but i know nothing about these things... but trying.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like you may have an 8N but I'm not certain.
How about a little more info such as year and model.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

it is a 5 speed 800 series. just not sure what model. the hand throttle bar goes thru the dash at the bottom has a connector bolted on. that connector has a little ball, almost like a grease fitting. then a spring bar goes over that and connects to another little ball which is attached to the top of the governor assembly. the round thing that spins. i will try to get pictures over the weekend. the little ball is what i twisted off
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

part #2 maybee???



1 1 NAA9805C Lever, Throttle Control, 134", All Purpose, Except LPG, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
1 1 NCA9805A Lever, Throttle Control, 134", LPG & Row Crop, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1955
1 1 311498 SPARE PART Lever, Throttle Control Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
1 1 NLS No Longer Serviced Lever, Throttle Control, Offset Gas {313394}, Start Year: 01/01/1959
1 1 NLS No Longer Serviced Lever, Throttle Control, Offset Diesel {313400}, Start Year: 01/01/1959
2 1 86536248 ARM Arm Assy., Throttle Control Lever, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
2 1 311500 SPARE PART Arm Assy., Throttle Control Lever, Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
3 AR 352321S36 WASHER Washer, Flat, 5/16"
4 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Hex, 5/16"-24
5 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Bolt, Square Hd., 5/16"-24 x 1-1/4", Start Year: 01/01/1953
6 1 NAA9815F ROD Rod Assy., Throttle Control Lever to Bellcrank, Except Diesel, Includes Ref. 7, Start Year: 01/01/1953
6 1 311955 ROD Rod Assy., Throttle Control Lever to Bellcrank, Diesel, Includes Ref. 7, Start Year: 01/01/1958
7 2 C0NN9A790A CLIP Clip, Throttle Control Lever to Bellcrank Rod, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
8 1 NAA9824D BRACKET Bracket, Throttle Control Lever, Except Diesel, No Longer Serviced
8 1 311499 SPARE PART Bracket, Throttle Control Lever, Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
9 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Washer, Lock, 5/16"
10 2 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Bolt, HH, 5/16"-18 x 5/8", Start Year: 01/01/1953
11 1 NAA9806B SPRING Spring, Throttle Control Lever, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
12 2 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Washer, Flat, 3/8", Start Year: 01/01/1953
13 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Pin, Cotter, 3/32" x 5/8", No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
14 1 NAA99778B WASHER Washer, Bellcrank Friction Disc Spring, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
14 1 780344 WASHER Washer, Bellcrank Friction Disc Spring, Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1958
15 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Washer, Flat, 7/16"
16 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Slotted Hex, 7/16"-20, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
17 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Pin, Cotter, 3/32" x 1"
18 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Slotted Hex, 5/16"-24, Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1958
19 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Pin, Cotter, 1/16" x 1"
20 1 NAA9827B SPRING Spring, Throttle Control, Governor Compensating, All Purpose, Years: 01/01/1953-12/31/1954
20 1 NCA9827A SPRING Spring, Throttle Control, Governor Compensating, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1955
21 1 NAA99618C Bellcrank Assy., Throttle Control, No Longer Serviced, Years: 01/01/1953-12/31/1954
21 1 NCA99618A CRANK Bellcrank Assy., Throttle Control, Except Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1955
21 1 311922 BELLCRANK Bellcrank Assy., Throttle Control, Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
22 1 E6NN9R536AA FRICTION WASHER Disc, Throttle Control Bellcrank Friction, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
22 1 311503 DISC Disc, Throttle Control Bellcrank Friction, Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
23 1 D9NN9825AB CLIP Clip, Throttle Control Governor Compensator Rod Assy., Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
23 1 311956 SPARE PART Clip, Throttle Control Governor Compensator Rod Assy., Diesel, Replaced by (2) 44720S36 Washer, 1/4" Flat, and (1) 72003S8 Cotter Pin 1/16 x 1/2, Start Year: 01/01/1958
24 1 NAA99735B STUD Stud, Throttle Control Bellcrank, Except Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
25 1 9828014 KNOB Knob, Choke, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
26 1 NAA99595B BRACKET Bracket, Choke Control Rod, Except Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
27 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Bolt, HH, 7/16"-14 x 1.12, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
28 1 NAA9705B ROD Rod Assy., Choke Control, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
29 1 NCA99609A SPARE PART Support, Carburetor Choke Control Rod, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
30 1 NAA99817C SPARE PART Rod, Throttle Control Governor Compensator, 134", NAA, No Longer Serviced, Years: 01/01/1953-12/31/1954
30 1 NCA99817A ROD Rod, Throttle Control Governor Compensator, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1955
30 1 311925 ROD Rod, Throttle Control, Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1958
31 1 B8NN12A453A STOP Stop Assy., Governor Compensator, Adjusting Rod, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
32 1 NAA99841A CLAMP Clamp, Governor Compensator Rod Adjusting, Except Diesel, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
33 1 NLS No Longer Serviced Spacer, .44 O.D. x .252/.254 I.D. x .08 Thick, Except Diesel {352893S}, Start Year: 01/01/1953
34 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Washer, Lock, 1/4"
35 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Hex, 1/4"-20
36 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Bolt, 1/4"-20 x 1-1/8", Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
37 1 NAA99810B TRACK ROD END ASSY End Assy., Governor Compensator Rod, W/Novi Governor, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
37 1 NCA99810A TRACK ROD END ASSY End Assy., Governor Compensator Rod, W/Pierce Governor, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1958
37 1 311924 HYD CONNECTOR Connector Assy., Throttle Control Rod, Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1958
38 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Jam, Hex, 1/4"-28, Start Year: 01/01/1953
39 1 86552618 ROD Rod Assy., Governor to Carburetor, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953
40 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Washer, Lock, #12, Internal Tooth
41 AR PL PROCURE LOCALLY Nut, Hex, #12-24
42 1 352338S8 SPARE PART Clevis, #12-24 Adusting, No Longer Serviced, Start Year: 01/01/1953
43 1 PL PROCURE LOCALLY Pin, Clevis, 1/4" x 51/64", Start Year: 01/01/1953
AR 280236 COTTER PIN Pin, Split (Cotter), 1/16" x 1/2"
44 1 B9NN9A791A CLIP Clip, Throttle Control Rod Connector, Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1958

 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

it's part number 2 in your chart. i broke off that little ball on it. any idea where i can get just part number 2 non diesel???

thanks....
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

well.. the chart I gave you had the part number in it:

86536248 ARM Arm Assy., Throttle Control Lever, Except Diesel, Start Year: 01/01/1953


i think I might call my dealer.. unless you wanna ask here maybee someone has one laying around.

not a real high attrition item.. I don't recall ever seeing one broke.

cnh probably walts a jillion bucks for it.. maybee not.. call em.

might call john smith as well.. he has all sorts of odds n ends. has helped me out of a bind a thousand times with parts. real honest guy. i posted a link for ya

in the event nobody has one.. get you a dowel rod and clean that piece up.. weld a piece of dowel rod on, then set patiently with a set of files and a dremel and make a new ball end. might take 20-30 minutes.. but will give ya time to think about not wrenching that one off Smile :)

good luck
john smiths site

 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Go to a good auto parts store or napa, they will have throttle ball assorment with nuts on them. Or find your local stock car buddy cause they build own thottle linkage.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Try a carb or speed shop and take the old one in to match the size.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks. i will call john smith. what is cnh?
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CASE NEW HOLLAND

the dealer tha now owns legacy ford servicing rights.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ah yes. our local one closed up a year ago but they moved about 50 minutes away. i'll call them to see what they might charge me. 'capital tractor. greenwich NY.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On the original factory piece the ball stud is swaged into the arm. If you disassemble the throttle mechanism and remove the entire arm (Part #2 in the diagram provided by soundguy) you can take it to an auto parts store and find a ball stud with the proper size ball that has a threaded post that is it's base. Then grind off what remains of the stud and drill a hole of the proper size to attach the new ball stud you just bought.
Here's a link to Holley's website to show you exactly what I'm talking about.
Throttle linkage ball studs

 
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: throttle handle spring bar ball Reply to specific post Reply with quote

again.. amy / may not be an available item.. if not. I bet it's easy to make..
 
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