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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just bought a Ford 5000. I have looked everywhere trying to figure out the numbers above the starter. I know it was built in England but everything else is kinda screwy. Any help would be greatly appriciated. The numbers are as follows:
5D4C
D138
B040788

There are stars stamped beside the bottom number. I don't know if that matters or not.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

5D4C is the date (unit) code. 1965, April 4, 3rd
shift. Can't help with the D138. B040788 is the
serial number, with the B indicating a Basildon-
built unit.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks for the info. I wonder how to figure out the D138. I would like to know everything about it. The pto, chassis etc.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 5D4C is 5-1965, D-April, 4-4th Day and C-Afternoon Shift.
The B040788 is the serial number B for built in Basildon.

The other number should be for Chassis, Fuel, Pto and Transmission in that order but the number D138 is not a good number for my book codes.
Sorry.

Here is some examples:
E1013C

E=Model 5000
10=Agricultural
1=Diesel
3=Live 540 rpm pto
C= 8 speed transmission

E4021A

E=5000
40=Utility
2=Gas
1=No PTO
A=4Speed Transmission
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Being a 1965 tractor, the model number should start with a 5 intead on an E, as they used a number for the first character from 1/1/65-3/68 and they used a letter from 4/1/68 onwards.

Being a Basildon tractor, they may have stamped some of he numbers on the similar flat spot on the opposite side of the tractor. Check over there to see if there are any other numbers. Also, check the under side of the right hood panel to see if the foil sticker is still there, as that will have the model number, production code and serial number, plus the production codes for the engine, transmission, hydraulic system and hydraulic pump.

Edit: I just remembered that they didn't start using the foil stickers under the hoods until some time well after 1965. I can't remember if it was in 1968 at about the same time that they changed the sheet metal, and grills and started using the letter in the model number instead of the number, or if it might have been even later, like some time in 1970 or 1971 when they started using the foil stickers.
 


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Right. I wasn"t saying these numbers were from a 65 but just showing examples to show him the D138 number doesn"t tell me anything.

For him to see how other 5000 tractors have that number and the way his is so he can see why there is a problem figuring it out.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'll do some more checking and try figure out the chassis and other stuff.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can you post a picture of it? We could probably tell
you at least most of the info on it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="Fordfarmer"](reply to post at 10:11:12 03/05/13) [/quote
Given the info that Sean gave, I'd be inclined to believe it was built in 1975, not 1965!
JMHO, HTH, Dave
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

McBride wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:31:48 03/05/13) The 5D4C is 5-1965, D-April, 4-4th Day and C-Afternoon Shift.
The B040788 is the serial number B for built in Basildon.

The other number should be for Chassis, Fuel, Pto and Transmission in that order but the number D138 is not a good number for my book codes.
Sorry.

Here is some examples:
E1013C

E=Model 5000
10=Agricultural
1=Diesel
3=Live 540 rpm pto
C= 8 speed transmission

E4021A

E=5000
40=Utility
2=Gas
1=No PTO
A=4Speed Transmission

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

maybe that will pic will help ford farmer. if it doesn't hopefully you can tell me another way to figure it out
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As I said earlier, the European assembly plants sometimes put some of the numbers on a similar flat spot on the left side of the tractor instead of the flat spot on the right side behind the starter. Look at the flat spot on the left and see if there';s any numbers stamped there. There should at least be one production code on the left side for the date that the transmission was assembled.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="Shetland Sheepdog"](quoted from post at 18:13:14 03/06/13)
Fordfarmer wrote:
(reply to post at 10:11:12 03/05/13) [/quote
Given the info that Sean gave, I'd be inclined to believe it was built in 1975, not 1965!
JMHO, HTH, Dave


I'm pretty sure that they had already switched over to the x600 production (2600, 3600, 4600, 5600, etc.) by April of 1975. Plus the serial number is B040788, and any thousand series serial number that starts with a zero after the letter is a very low serial number regardless of which plant it was assembled at. If that serial number was a 1975 serial number, that would mean that they only produced 40,000 tractors at the Basildon plant in 10 years of production.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sean in PA wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:23:19 03/06/13) As I said earlier, the European assembly plants sometimes put some of the numbers on a similar flat spot on the left side of the tractor instead of the flat spot on the right side behind the starter. Look at the flat spot on the left and see if there';s any numbers stamped there. There should at least be one production code on the left side for the date that the transmission was assembled.

I don't think there is but I will look as soon as I get a chance to see.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with ford 5000 serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I meant of the whole tractor... We'd be able to tell chassis type (utility, row crop, etc.), transmission, maybe PTO. But I think in 1965, it was utility only (RC came out in '67), with the 8-speed or Select-O-Speed. SOS was independent PTO, as were most (all?) 8-speeds. Not sure if the 5000's were available without independent PTO... My '67 sales literature only lists independent PTO.
 
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