cockshutt 1650

[1650 clutchpack]

I am in the process of removing a clutch pack from a Cockshutt 1650 gas tractor.
after disconnecting the spider linkage, I am still unable to slide the clutch assembly towards the rear and off the shaft.
Is there anyone out there who has experience with this situation and has some suggestions?
Thank you.

 

[Tramway Guy]

Post your question in the Oliver section and you will get a better response.

 

[super99]

I am in the process of removing a clutch pack from a Cockshutt 1650 gas tractor.
after disconnecting the spider linkage, I am still unable to slide the clutch assembly towards the rear and off the shaft.
Is there anyone out there who has experience with this situation and has some suggestions?
Thank you.

Are you asking about the PTO clutch?? If so, I think that you have to take the 3 bolts out that hold it to the case and pull the long shaft out before you can take the clutch apart. Even a I & T manual would be of assistance.

 

[greg oliver]

I am in the process of removing a clutch pack from a Cockshutt 1650 gas tractor.
after disconnecting the spider linkage, I am still unable to slide the clutch assembly towards the rear and off the shaft.
Is there anyone out there who has experience with this situation and has some suggestions?
Thank you.

Did you remove PTO drive shaft from the rear of tractor?

 

[greg oliver]

I am in the process of removing a clutch pack from a Cockshutt 1650 gas tractor.
after disconnecting the spider linkage, I am still unable to slide the clutch assembly towards the rear and off the shaft.
Is there anyone out there who has experience with this situation and has some suggestions?
Thank you.

 

[tom upton]

The snap ring that is descibed in greg oliver's post is a bit finicky to get at. You have to rotate the spider housing to the correct spot to get your snap ring pliers thru access slot into the holes in ends of snap ring. I think I use a fairly long pair of straight nose. Shine a light in there and you will see the snap ring. Once you remove the snap ring the whole assembly will slide out. Dont feel too bad about not seeing this snap ring. The first one I took apart had me stumped for a while until I finally read the manual!

 

[greg oliver]

I found a YT video that shows PTO disassembly. That snap ring was a pain for me to remove.

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

After you take out the three bolts on the bearing retainer behind the clutch you'll need a pry bar to pull it out. The inner bearing is a bit tight.

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

After you take out the three bolts on the bearing retainer behind the clutch you'll need a pry bar to pull it out. The inner bearing is a bit tight.

After you take out the three bolts on the bearing retainer behind the clutch you'll need a pry bar to pull it out. The inner bearing is a bit tight.

That shaft it about six feet long with two splined sections. When it comes partway out the end splines will hit the hydraulic drive gear and you must rotate it till they like up. Not real hard, just need a bit of patience.

 

[used red MN]

Not being an Oliver guy I was looking up to see if the chain coupler may have been referred to as the “spider linkage,” is that a common term? I see the conversation went to the PTO, is “spider linkage” a common term associated with the PTO? I think that the new member may be a bit confused about how to use a forum since his user name is also is the topic of his quest.
To new poster “1650 clutchpack” to add more information scroll down below what everyone has replied and type in the area the says “Write you reply..”
Here is a link to the AGCO online parts catalog for your tractor. Giving exact names of the parts you are referring to would be helpful. That AGCO catalog takes some time to load its pages so be patient.
AGCO CS/Oliver 1650 online parts catalog

 

[1650 clutchpack]

The snap ring that is descibed in greg oliver's post is a bit finicky to get at. You have to rotate the spider housing to the correct spot to get your snap ring pliers thru access slot into the holes in ends of snap ring. I think I use a fairly long pair of straight nose. Shine a light in there and you will see the snap ring. Once you remove the snap ring the whole assembly will slide out. Dont feel too bad about not seeing this snap ring. The first one I took apart had me stumped for a while until I finally read the manual!

Thank you for that tip. I located the snap ring after rotating the spider housing. Next is purchasing the pliers.
I appreciate the advice

 

[1650 clutchpack]

Not being an Oliver guy I was looking up to see if the chain coupler may have been referred to as the “spider linkage,” is that a common term? I see the conversation went to the PTO, is “spider linkage” a common term associated with the PTO? I think that the new member may be a bit confused about how to use a forum since his user name is also is the topic of his quest.
To new poster “1650 clutchpack” to add more information scroll down below what everyone has replied and type in the area the says “Write you reply..”
Here is a link to the AGCO online parts catalog for your tractor. Giving exact names of the parts you are referring to would be helpful. That AGCO catalog takes some time to load its pages so be patient.
AGCO CS/Oliver 1650 online parts catalog

 

[1650 clutchpack]

Thanks for the tip.. Yes I was confused but it is starting to make a bit more sense now.

 

[1650 clutchpack]

I found a YT video that shows PTO disassembly. That snap ring was a pain for me to remove.

Thank you for your response, and posting the videos.

 

[used red MN]

Can you at least verify that you are working on the PTO or it it something else?

 

[used red MN]

Can you at least verify that you are working on the PTO or it it something else?

Sorry, missed your replies 11 and 14!

 

[1650 clutchpack]

Can you at least verify that you are working on the PTO or it it something else?

I am working on removing the clutch pack ..I have located the slot needed to remove the snap ring which is preventing the clutch pack from sliding rearward off the shaft, and then allowing me to remove the shaft as well.
I purchased a pair of snap ring pliers, however to this point I have been unsuccessful in extracting it. Any suggestions for that process would be appreciated.

 

[1650 clutchpack]

The snap ring that is descibed in greg oliver's post is a bit finicky to get at. You have to rotate the spider housing to the correct spot to get your snap ring pliers thru access slot into the holes in ends of snap ring. I think I use a fairly long pair of straight nose. Shine a light in there and you will see the snap ring. Once you remove the snap ring the whole assembly will slide out. Dont feel too bad about not seeing this snap ring. The first one I took apart had me stumped for a while until I finally read the manual!

what brand of pliers did you use? How long would those be?

 

[super99]

I am working on removing the clutch pack ..I have located the slot needed to remove the snap ring which is preventing the clutch pack from sliding rearward off the shaft, and then allowing me to remove the shaft as well.
I purchased a pair of snap ring pliers, however to this point I have been unsuccessful in extracting it. Any suggestions for that process would be appreciated.

You have to hold your mouth just right to get it off!

 

[tom upton]

I am working on removing the clutch pack ..I have located the slot needed to remove the snap ring which is preventing the clutch pack from sliding rearward off the shaft, and then allowing me to remove the shaft as well.
I purchased a pair of snap ring pliers, however to this point I have been unsuccessful in extracting it. Any suggestions for that process would be appreciated.

Here is a pic of the internal snap ring pliers I use to remove the snap ring along with a couple pics of shaft removed from tractor. ( I am working on a 2-70 which for all intensive purposes should be same as your 1650.) Maybe yours is a single speed PTO but as far as I know that will not change the basics of removing the shaft,( complete with spider) then the clutch pac. Does yours look like this? I am wondering if you are getting the cart ahead of the horse as you said in an earlier post "after disconnecting the spider linkage" ?? It is a pretty basic/straight forward job once you get the snap ring out of the bore in housing. Sometimes a snap ring will be stuck in the groove so you give it a lttle persuasion with a small punch and hammer or something but in this case there shouldnt really be any corrosion so assuming you get your INTERNAL snap ring pliers into the ends of snap ring it should come out. Were are you at in this world? remote chance you are anywhere near me I could drop by and give you a hand? I am north east of Toronto. I assume reason for removal is you are replacing the discs? You should get a manual ordered if you allready havent?